Think that it's the first time the 'Obama' routine is pulled? Think again...

[Richard Kimble]

Don't back down.  The Quaker comment was not sarcastic.  You got caught in a lie.  Admit it.

Regarding your Bush and the third time for the same party in a row comment, okay.  I didn't see the "for the same party in a row" comment so I stand corrected.

However, you comment is still wrong.  In recent times, Gore attempted to win the presidency for the same party three times in a row as has EVERY candidate following a two-term presidential run.  Your comment makes no sense at all.

McCain just tried to win the presidency for a third term for the party in power.

[ham]

I am still waiting for your comment about

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIXRt57tM3Q

And old Bush WON and got the third term in a row for the same party...I never used the word 'try'.

You got caught in a lie.

How would you know?
Are you Obama's new confessor or spiritual healer?
But assuming you may want to consider only what he explicitly said,
there is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIXRt57tM3Q

I see you pick your fights very selectively...

The Quaker comment was not sarcastic.

So not only you are Obama's new spiritual counselor...you also read tarots...amazing...
Anyways, if you have a poor opinion of my sarcasm, I have a even poorer opinion of your logical abilities...
Picking the comment about religion and asking for proofs just invited my rubbing your nose into the Muslim faith video clip, about which you have remained silent.
Not that anything changes, but to an unaware bystander Obama looks better as a Quaker (or whichever of the 3000 protestant denominations he's with this semester ) than as a Muslim...
Who knows...
Maybe your picking the wrong fight resulted in a few more people watching that embarrassing clip for the first time...
Obama is lucky he picked better PR people than you are...
Although I am sure one who picks the difference between 'socialism' and 'communism' must think he's smart...smarter than Marx actually, who dubbed his theory 'scientific socialism' in opposition to utopian and old school socialism...
Napoleon III claimed to be an old school socialist...



This said, the scene is all yours now.

[Richard Kimble]

You said he is a Quaker.  You said this, not I.  You have failed to prove it, plain and simple.  Obama never said he is a Quaker, you did, and you have consistently failed to prove it.

Regarding your youtube clip, who cares if he's a Muslim? I don't.  Why should you?  This is a free country and one has the right to hold whatever religious beliefs one chooses. However, I doubt he is a Muslim.  We all make so-called "Freudian slips."  Maybe you never have.  My hat's off to you.

Also, please provide evidence Obama has claimed to be a member of any denomination than the United Church of Christ, as you have indicated. You cannot. You have been caught in one lie after another.

[ham]

I never typed the words 'he claimed'

Muslim education in a Muslim country is just part of what makes him a wonderful, rounded-up, awesome and open-minded individual to make us dream (so preaches a Jewish AAA+ analyst on TV right now ).
He's a Quaker now...we all deserve a second chance...Fujimori was billed Roman Catholic...

I referred to third party comments.
Unlike you, I can't claim to know the inside of Obama's soul or to read tarots...I only know what the press publishes or people tell themselves.

Regarding your youtube clip, who cares if he's a Muslim? I don't. Why should you? This is a free country and one has the right to hold whatever religious beliefs one chooses. However, I doubt he is a Muslim. We all make so-called "Freudian slips." Maybe you never have. My hat's off to you.

See?
You came here all hot&bothered and wanted 'proof' about the third party (sarcastic ) comment 'Quaker'...

He left Trinity United Church of Christ. He may still list the United Church of Christ as his denominational preference.

yet right now you both say you don't care he may be a Muslim and that his statement may just be a 'freudian slip'...since he got Muslim education that's a bit harder to believe, but if you say so.
If you don't care he may be a Muslim (I still use 'may' while his taped statement requires 'is' ) because it's a free country, why did you pick the Quaker battle? Wouldn't the country still be free if he was a Quaker?
Lastly, you screamed for 'proofs', but when one taped statement is provided, you doubt it...
You doubt a taped statement but you think you can argue he's 'unitedchurchofchristian'...
Based on what?
What he said? But he said he's a Muslim, too!
Based on your opinion?
Your opinion is no better than mine.

We both know the reality...
You are annoyed if anyone says something that -in your opinion- doesn't compliment your candidate .
Being annoyed, you pick stupid fights...

[ham]

Barack Obama 's house.
Definitely not bad for a socialist...
Thank God he understands the difference between socialiam and communism...
I feel really ashamed...this man really has a lot in common with the poor, the destitute, the unemployed...

McCain spokesman Brian Rogers responded with a statement pointing to Obama's own increasingly comfortable life.

"Does a guy who made more than $4 million last year, just got back from vacation on a private beach in Hawaii and bought his own million-dollar mansion with the help of a convicted felon really want to get into a debate about houses?" Roger said. "Does a guy who worries about the price of arugula and thinks regular people 'cling' to guns and religion in the face of economic hardship really want to have a debate about who's in touch with regular Americans?"

[Dennis Ruhl]

Obama is simply an Ivy League liberal - long on BS and rhetoric and short on substance. The Kennedys have been fooling their working class constituency for over 50 years. The Harvard graduate son of a Harvard graduate claims the moral high ground but has suffered no character developing hardship in his life - ergo no character.

Perhaps Americans aren't used to the "I care so much" election promises that Obama spouted. In Canada we have a third party called the New Democrat Party which promises the moon because they will never be called on to deliver. When they have won provincial elections they tax, borrow, and spend their provinces into near poverty.

Give me Sarah Palin, as president, any day. She is from the working classes and probably understands the need for sound government more than Obama.

[ham]

Weird but true:
Both Mussolini & Hitler worked as construction workers many years in their lives. Hitler bummed earning pennies as a street artist & Mussolini was a elementary school teacher. Louis Bonaparte (future Napoleon III ) -although born a prince- lived many years as a fugitive or in precarious conditions.
Napoleon Bonaparte was so poor in his youth & military beginnings that a compassionate woman would wash his clothes for free...
It turns out a bunch of so-called dictators has more in common with the working class person more than all the Kennedys, Karl Marx & Levi (Jewish millionaire, left and later rejoined the socialdemocratic party, and founder of maximalist far left Spartachus league in Germany between wars ) in this world.

[Richard Kimble]

...Based on your opinion? Your opinion is no better than mine...

Opinion? You didn't express an opinion.  You said very matter-of-factly that

He's a Quaker now

So I ask you again, how do you know this?  

What source did you obtain this information from?  

You didn't day that you think he is a Quaker, you sated "He is a Quaker now."  

How do you know?

Is Obama a Quaker?

[Richard Kimble]

Barack Obama 's house.
Definitely not bad for a socialist...
Thank God he understands the difference between socialiam and communism...
I feel really ashamed...this man really has a lot in common with the poor, the destitute, the unemployed...

McCain spokesman Brian Rogers responded with a statement pointing to Obama's own increasingly comfortable life.

"Does a guy who made more than $4 million last year, just got back from vacation on a private beach in Hawaii and bought his own million-dollar mansion with the help of a convicted felon really want to get into a debate about houses?" Roger said. "Does a guy who worries about the price of arugula and thinks regular people 'cling' to guns and religion in the face of economic hardship really want to have a debate about who's in touch with regular Americans?"

[Richard Kimble]

McCain owns seven homes.  Show me any major party candidate that doesn't live in a nice home.  Then show me a candidate that lives in the slums.  You all condemn Obama's home yet I bet everyone of you lives in homes better than the majority of the poor in this and other countries.  Don't be hypocrites.