Think that it's the first time the 'Obama' routine is pulled? Think again...

[Dennis Ruhl]

Then show me a candidate that lives in the slums.  

I think that's my whole point.

You all condemn Obama's home yet I bet everyone of you lives in homes better than the majority of the poor in this and other countries.  Don't be hypocrites.

Obama's got me beat but I own a few more acres.

[ham]

McCain owns seven homes.  Show me any major party candidate that doesn't live in a nice home.  Then show me a candidate that lives in the slums.  You all condemn Obama's home yet I bet everyone of you lives in homes better than the majority of the poor in this and other countries.  Don't be hypocrites.

Well, a iota of coherence wouldn't hurt people who -as you said- embody 'socialism', right?
Otherwise it's a free for all hogwash fest...which it is...
Therefore I don't understand why you raise to defend a man who apparently violates the very basic rules of the credo you credit to him (=socialism), much like all 'liberationist', 'communist' or 'socialist' leaders...
Sure he may not be a devil...but he's not very believable, too.

Me?
I am a middle class or bourgeois person.
I remember when I was very young I was asked why I had not joined some far left group...to which I objected that would amount to an absurdity...I couldn't wave red flags and burn cars during the day, preaching against wealth and inequalities...only -as you say- come home in the evening to a better house than many possess...I am not a hoaxer...
"My station and its duties" from philosopher Bradley is an interesting start.
I don't like the big capital, but I find Robin Hood rhetoric nonsensical and dangerous...
What will Obama do first?
Much like Cheney, he will try to bribe his overt (or occult) financial supporters into self-satisfaction with favors and public money (contracts, laws, etc )...
Or do you think he'll just show them the big finger and tell them off?
Louis Robichaud was the first Acadian elected NB prime minister (1960-70) with the sympathy of the Irving group...when he no longer nodded to the wishes of his powerful supporters, he was swiftly swept from power.
What about the unwashed?
They can wait and dream about taboos being pissed over...

Quote:
He's a Quaker now


So I ask you again, how do you know this?  

What source did you obtain this information from?  

How do you know he's not a Quaker?
Which hard evidence can you offer?
Please do not tell me 'because he said so' or 'because he attended so&so church for n years', because he also attended a Muslim school for years and recently was taped claiming to be one of them...and left the church he was last with, right?
And after all, who cares...you said the country is a free one, right?

[Richard Kimble]

...How do you know he's not a Quaker? Which hard evidence can you offer?...

This is not the issue.  YOU SAID HE IS ONE and I asked you to prove it AND YOU CANNOT. YOU LIED!  Besides, if he had became a Convinced Friend, don't you think it would have been mentioned in Friends Journal or Quaker Life?

So, I ask you ONE MORE TIME--IS HE A QUAKER AS YOU STATED?

[Richard Kimble]

...And after all, who cares...

Anyone who believe in truth, cares. Your veracity is on the line here. You said

He is a Quaker now

and have yet to validate your statement. If you won't admit you lied or prove he is a Quaker, then the rest of your postings will be suspect. Is this the reputation you want, that you lie?

[Richard Kimble]

...He's a Quaker now...

Not according to this.

[ham]

and have yet to validate your statement.

who cares if he's a Quaker? I don't. Why should you? This is a free country and one has the right to hold whatever religious beliefs one chooses.

If you won't admit you lied or prove he is a Quaker, then the rest of your postings will be suspect. Is this the reputation you want, that you lie?

Coming from whom?
A person who admitted he picked fights without even reading my posts?

Regarding your Bush and the third time for the same party in a row comment, okay. I didn't see the "for the same party in a row" comment so I stand corrected.

I already got called names by the degreeinfo / degreediscussion clique...and showed them the big finger.
The problem here is not the 'reputation' of some anonymous poster called Ham on an anonymous website, but Obama's image...
Not that it changes anything, but I doubt your crusade enhanced his image one little bit...
That is why you selectively ignore how someone who made 4 millions a year and bought a $1.5 million mansion can be called a 'socialist' or partisan of socialism as you do.

Because he's an idiot who is a racist and doesn't know the difference between communism and socialism.

My 'veracity' (as you call it) might need improvement, you said, but I'm glad I am not alone.

Not according to this.

A Wikipedia article?
Great...


According to this, Millard Fillmore, L.I.A.R, Fairfax etc never existed.

PFFT!

[Richard Kimble]

...He's a Quaker now...

Once again, how do you know this?  Or, did you LIE!

[Richard Kimble]

I have given Ham every opportunity to either show evidence Obama is a Quaker or admit he lied.  To date, he has done neither.  Instead, he has consistently and constantly engaged in circumlocutious tripe.

No one in Friends General Conference, Friends United Meeting, Central Yearly Meeting, or Evangelical Friends International has any knowledge of Obama becoming a Convinced Friend. Nor has anyone in the Friends World Committee for Consultation.

Therefore, the credibility and legitimacy of Ham's posts are no longer in question.  They are invalid, illegitimate, and not credible.  I will not longer reply or respond to any other of his posts because I would only legitimize his dishonesty.

[ham]

Thank God he left me off the hook...
It has been the more humiliating experience in my life...

No one in Friends General Conference, Friends United Meeting, Central Yearly Meeting, or Evangelical Friends International has any knowledge of Obama becoming a Convinced Friend. Nor has anyone in the Friends World Committee for Consultation on Consultation.

I am sure they told you in a secret meeting...
Do they know about his 'Muslim faith'...?
Oh, I forgot that is not a 'matter of fact' taped statement but a joke or a slip...
PFFT!

Anyways, what do I expect from someone who thinks that a man with +/- $4 millions income and who lives in a $1.5 millions mansion is a socialist (or defends socialist ideas or has a socialist agenda, or... otherwise mr. lawyer will say I made wrong 'matter of fact' statements )

Another 'red caviar socialist'...

PFFT![/quote]

[Dennis Ruhl]

ham;

You da man!