Charisma Sues RCD, DD, DI

[Ben Johnson]

He sure ain't no Wavy Gravy. More like (Diploma) Milli Vanilli.

Canada had a Wavy Navy. Most naval officers in WWII were in the Royal Canadian Naval Volunteer Reserve. At the time they wore zig-zag rank insignia on their sleeves while the regular navy officers wore straight insignia. Some time since everyone switched to straight insignia and the naval reserves have almost disappeared because its hard to build a top heavy slug infested bureaucratic empire based on poorly paid part timers. The UK also had a Wavy Navy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Cana...er_Reserve

[Winston Smith]

He sure ain't no Wavy Gravy. More like (Diploma) Milli Vanilli.

Canada had a Wavy Navy. ...

Klempner is the commandant of the Smarmy Army.

[JohnBear]

As has been pointed out here, I am an old guy. Old guys get medical conditions. I am going to be taking care of stuff for a while, that that will mean much-reduced online time. So I'm backing off from this site, and many others, for a while. Nothing whatever to do with the level or content of criticism that still rains down upon me. See you later. If anyone wants to make personal contact, write john.bear@mac.com. If it's signed, I'll reply. If it's anonymous, I might. --John

[Harrison J Bounel]

As has been pointed out here, I am an old guy. Old guys get medical conditions. I am going to be taking care of stuff for a while, that that will mean much-reduced online time. So I'm backing off from this site, and many others, for a while. Nothing whatever to do with the level or content of criticism that still rains down upon me. See you later. If anyone wants to make personal contact, write john.bear@mac.com. If it's signed, I'll reply. If it's anonymous, I might. --John

For the love of God, Klempner, please don't die! JHC7 hasn't finished ripping you a new one yet.

[Armando Ramos]

As has been pointed out here, I am an old guy. Old guys get medical conditions. I am going to be taking care of stuff for a while....See you later.

Heads up, all NCTSI pool participants!

[Armando Ramos]

Defendant Doogle Dodges Damages

Typical of the braying donkeys at DI, they comment on legal issues they lack all background or capacity to understand, and legal documents they haven't read and wouldn't understand if they had read them. Then they chortle because there hasn't been any commentary here yet. Might have something to do with the fact that we don't necessarily consider Doogle to be a reliable source of info on legal issues, and like to have at least a little documentary evidence before we start offering opinions.

  DouglasOrder.pdf (Size: 7.24 KB / Downloads: 1)

As expected when no significant opposition is filed, Doogle's anti-SLAPP motion was granted. Like Dr. Dolphin's ill-fated action against the sleazy stalker George Gollin and UIUC, this was a poorly executed effort yielding a result based on technicalities and the ineptness of the presentation and not on the underlying merits of the case. On the surface it would appear that Doogle gained a tactical success, but in the long run Charisma still may claim a strategic victory.

This is not unlike the Battle of the Coral Sea during WWII, and probably many others our historian readers can cite. Although a tactical victory for the Japanese in terms of ships sunk, the battle was a strategic victory for the Allies because it averted the seaborne invasion at Port Moresby, and marked the first time that a Japanese invasion force was turned back without achieving its objective. It also deprived the Japanese of two carriers in the forthcoming Midway battle, where Japan ultimately lost the strategic initiative in the war.

Similarly, we see that Doogle won a clear tactical victory, in that Charisma's suit against him was dismissed, and Doogle now is lined up to obtain an attorney fee judgment against Charisma.

  DouglasCostMemo.pdf (Size: 64.96 KB / Downloads: 2)

  DouglasMotionAttorneyFees.pdf (Size: 309.56 KB / Downloads: 2)

However, strategically Charisma has achieved several important objectives.

1. Charisma is publically recognized as a legit school. First and probably foremost from Charisma's point of view, this lawsuit effectively ended the prototypical swarming asshole fustercluck against startup schools by the Klempner Klone Kadre. Given that the school was UK ASIC accredited when the assaults began and is now a candidate for ACBSP accreditation, clearly it's not and never was a "pay to play" operation in the minds of anyone but the sickest of Klempner acolytes.

2. DD is now effectively defunct. The lawsuit also pretty much ended Degreediscussion.com as a viable discussion board. Aside from a few occasional stragglers who apparently haven't noticed that the board is moribund, since the lawsuit was filed there has been little activity there other than spammers peddling kitchen remodeling.

3. Doogle admits he offered to take it back.

When I got served, I called him and offered to settle the matter. I offered to take whatever he wanted said about the school and post it under my name, provided it was factual. He would have none of it.

http://www.degreeinfo.com/accreditation-...psp-3.html

As Davy Crockett supposedly said, "Be sure you're right, then go ahead." He didn't say, "Who cares if you're right, talk out your ass and if anybody complains just offer to say whatever you must to get out of it." Doogle's public admission reveals him to be just what everyone already suspected: He's a blowhard who makes off the cuff proclamations with little or no factual basis. And because he really doesn't believe his own positions he is perfectly willing to compromise them. A person who has factually researched a position and holds a sincere belief in its validity doesn't make multiple offers of retraction just to avoid confrontation. As we often see, a person who holds a sincere belief would be more likely to take Charisma's kamikaze approach, attorney fees be damned, the righteousness of the cause outweighing all else including common sense. Unfortunately for Charisma, sincerity doesn't win lawsuits. Unfortunately for Doogle, a cheap sellout with no moral conviction loses what little credibility he ever had.

Perhaps if Doogle had Klempner's charm and sense of humor he might have succeeded in weaseling his way out of this. Now he's got a bunch of legal bills and an uncollectible judgment.

[Howie Felterbush]

Who won that World Series anyway? Remember the dramatic Carlton Fisk home run in the 12th inning of Game 6 of the 1975 World Series, where the Boston catcher seems to be trying to push his high fly ball into fair ground for a game winning home run? While fans may remember the incident, or have seen it replayed a million times even if they weren't around then, the fact is that many people don't remember that the Cincinnati Reds actually won that World Series the next day, and would go on to sweep the Yankees to win the World Series the following year as well. Let's hope Doogle enjoys celebrating his big "victory," but he needs to remember that there are a lot more games yet to be played.