Maybe YOU guys know something. I don't think so.

[Student]

Their main mistake is that they don't empasize the tier and the grading of the schools.

ITT wile not a mill lured many unsuspected students who earned dissent degrees only to find out that they are treated as a second rate citizens when trying to use their AS or BS degree to enter a normal dissent graduate school. Their accreditor fairly or not is considered lower than DETC. If DETC accredited NA degrees get a level of acceptance in to RA Graduate schools Accrediting Council for Independent Colleges and Schools has lower rate.
Many regionally accredited universities and colleges will not accept ITT Tech's credits for transfer or recognize its undergraduate degrees for entry into graduate programs.
As far as I know the ITT in my home city provides superior education and will easily compete with high tier RA school.

ITT Tech was under federal investigation in 2004. The grand jury subpoenas that triggered the searches were issued by a U.S. District Court in Houston, and sought data on student placement, retention, attendance and grades, along with recruitment and admissions materials, graduate salaries, and transfers of credits to other schools. No charges were filed, and Michael Shelby, whose office was the one conducting the investigation, stressed that "no conclusions should be drawn from today's activity".[5] Nevertheless, the investigation negatively affected the company's stock.[6]

ITT Tech agreed to pay $725,000 to settle a lawsuit with California in which employees alleged that it inflated students’ grade point averages so they qualified for more financial aid from the State of California. ITT admitted that “erroneous student grade point average calculations” resulted in 49 students receiving more money from the state Cal Grant program than they were entitled to. The settlement covered the state's portion of the 2002 federal claims lawsuit.

[ham]

ITT Tech agreed to pay $725,000 to settle a lawsuit with California in which employees alleged that it inflated students’ grade point averages so they qualified for more financial aid from the State of California. ITT admitted that “erroneous student grade point average calculations” resulted in 49 students receiving more money from the state Cal Grant program than they were entitled to. The settlement covered the state's portion of the 2002 federal claims lawsuit.

OOOPS!


When god-fearing administrators at legally accredited universities make these oh-so-little-mistakes and tell some oh-so-small-white-lies, public money going to line their pockets it is always big...billions in the case of university of phoenix...
No ebay degree mill & its ruthless, dodgy administrator might aim that high I suppose...

[Student]

People are people some are more ethical then others, some have more integrity then others. Universities accredited and unaccredited run by people.
But I do think that these are exceptions and majority of RA, NA universities are above what we read here.

[Randall Flagg]

I think most legitiamte schools, state licensed or accredited try to do much better than this, but it doesn't change the fact that accredited schools are pumping out thousands of degrees each year that are suspect. You don't have to go past the football teams and the so called student-athletes to see that.

Our position that accredited schools have milled and provided tainted degrees by the thousands has been presented and has prevailed.

"More than seventy current and former students at Diablo Valley Colege in Pleasant Hill are being investigated for allegedly paying bribes of up to $600 to have their grades raised on official transcripts officials said.

College officials believe as many as 400 grades were changed, casting a cloud over the school's transcripts."
-- Henry K. Lee--San Francisco Chronicle

[Randall Flagg]

We can find these grade fixing and transcript alterations by the dozens. It's just a matter of how many it takes to show that phoney degrees are being pumped out by very bad unaccredited and accredited schools. While most schools may not be doing this, some have, too many have, and it's not just the mills pretending to be schools as the gang says, but by all sorts of colleges. You have to take one college at a time, accredited or not, and judge the one by its works. You can't say, as does the gang, that those unaccredited schools are all bad or mills while our beloved RA schools are so wonderful, because some aren't.

"A scheme to change grades for money also affected a second Contra Costa County Community college, administrators said.

After months of denials, Contra Costa Community College District leaders conceded Tuesday that the Diablo Valley College cash-for-grades scandal also had struck Los Medanos College in Pittsburg."
--Associated Press

[Student]

Academic fraud is as old as the Universities.

I wasn't going to mention this but there are also other ways of compensation than money that professors got from yang students :-).
University of Arizona recruiting practices are remarkable, they select the best looking students for recruiting purposes.
I'm not sure if they work for Mr Hefner

[ham]

I wasn't going to mention this but there are also other ways of compensation than money that professors got from yang students :-).

hmm
sounds like an ad for a porn site...how Muffy Wank gets AA+ from old prof. Jones during an "oral " exam.

While that may be happening, cases reported show that IT & registrar officials are most often guilty.
Cashing money is safer than dubious sexual favors...easier to conceal and easier to explain away in court...
It all happens away from public scrutiny.

[Randall Flagg]

I would certainly believe that good looking coeds get more attention, help, and better grades for the same level of work and effort than say, the less attractive coeds.

Another thought: Slim students probably are treated better and given a better chance in college than heavy students.

[Randall Flagg]

The Diablo Valley College cash-for-grades scandal has taken a new turn with reports that sex may have been traded for better marks.

http://www.ktvu.com/news/13494581/detail.html

[DR ANATIDAE]

Now don't get too nasty Rich.  Bear may think you are too crazy to be his 'in public' friend anymore, a detriment. You should be tired of always losing these things, but then, you are so good at ignorance.
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