Breyer State

[DR ANATIDAE]

We are not saying a KU degree has to be accepted by all or wanted by all. We are saying it is up to the student how he or she gets the education or training. We are saying that a small group of people (as at Di) don't have the right to try and control what legal schools people wish to use. Especially when the the ring leaders, Bear and Douglas, have both benefited financially from those unacredited schools, often. If they can work at and own state licensed colleges, we can choose to use them. If it is wrong morally to have unaccredited degrees as they have often claimed, then how much worse should it be to sell them. But they claim to be the good guys and that we are millist because we have bought the very things they sold, nonsense. If it's good for the seller, it's legitimate for the buyers.
Greenwich University
Virginia International University
International Institute for Advanced Studies
Fairfax University
MIGS
Columbia Pacific University

None of these are accredited and both Bear and Douglas had involvement with them. They, needless to say, cashed the checks and hyped the schools. They now say so what. So what? People used these schools, got degrees, and now have to watch as Bear and Douglas say all unaccredited schools are very bad or mills. Well, I say this. If they were too bad to use they were too bad to sell, but they did sell them and hype them as good. They still claim they did no wrong, only the students who listened to them, according to them, went wrong.

Plus - the California University for Advanced Studies, which JB had a serious involvement with during the 1980's.

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None of these are accredited and both Bear and Douglas had involvement with them.

PFFT!
forget them.
Their opinion is worth as much as the next person's, who calls you cold to sell thirty bottles "of the best wine ever" for only $29.99, when it comes to one's life-shaping choices such as education.

legal schools

in the general public's interest it is safe to emphasize that legality or having fulfilled or met legalities in a jurisdiction does not mean by any stretch of the term that said enterprise or operation is "accredited", or even operates as a "traditional school" as laymen undestand it.
I am not saying it is good what laymen think, or bad, but it must be properly addressed.
It sounds suspicious to me how some of these highly non-traditional providers try to emphasize their status with names (EG college or university ) reminiscent of the very core of "traditional learning" they were (supposedly ) born to challenge with all those inspired talks about education cartels, freedom in academia etc.
It seems to me that oftentimes it might just be a long detour to go back to the old outcome of a fast'n'easy-print-on-demand degree on a "university" parchement, which can be procured with less red carpet on ebay for pennies.
If these providers barely acted as facilitators, EG assembling bona fide faculty with traditional degrees to basically offering tutoring and mentoring services, all the better.
But i'm afraid very often it isn't the case.