08-28-2007, 06:24 AM
(This post was last modified: 08-28-2007, 06:48 AM by Randall Flagg.)
"This report lists the name, last known address, and details of the programs offered. Dealing with such places is potentially dangerous, and it is most emphatically not recommended. The report is provided as a reference source for those involved in evaluating others' credentials; for those who are simply curious; AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE WILLING TO TAKE LARGER RISKS.
The final decision, of course, must be your own. But before dealing with any of the 'Schools' described here, you may wish to give serious thought to acquiring a degree from a bible school instead. They are usually just as decorative, equally valueless, generally much less expensive, and much more likely to be legal.
Why I Provide This Information:
(2) It offers the reader who chooses to ignore my warnings a consumer's guide to Fake Degrees. Why spend $3,000 for a fake doctorate when you can get one that is just as useless for $10.
A final warning: diploma mills move around a great deal, and the nature of their offerings regularly changes. If you must deal with one, don't send any money until you have verified they are still in business, and ready to sell you what you wish.
From page 18:
The present author (one of the original group) assisted in selling the L.I.A.R. business to a gentleman in Holland, who carries it on for personal gain. I have been unable to stop him from using my name on the diplomas. He says he will send me $30 for each one he sells-money I will Gladly Accept and Donate to Good Charities.
From page 20:
Millard Fillmore Institute
But people will find a way to misuse anything. When a high official of a large fundamental Christian Bible School, Freedom University, was found to be claiming his Doctorate from the Millard Fillmore Institute, it seemed time to shut its fictitious gates, Perhaps Forever."
--John Bear, Ph.D., Bonus Report: Diploma Mills of the World, 1982, California, Mendocino Book Company
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Now this report was just what the world needed, a listing of degree mills and the contact information. You will notice Bear makes no morality statements, just that it might be dangerous and that it was up to you if you wanted to use his list AND RISK IT.
John has gleefully pointed out the magazines and newspapers who provide contact information to schools John now 'Deems questionable'. And yet, John did it first, best, and also for profit. He once again says do as I say, not as I have done.
Of course I'm sure everyone noticed he gladly took the payments from the new owner of "L.I.A.R." It doesn't matter how he used the money (we don't really know if he gave one dime to charities) paid for the use of his name, the point is he took it. And why the hell would someone sell a degree mill instead of just closing it down, hint, he wanted the MONEY.
As many of us have said over and over. Bear didn't give a damn what you did it was up to you. He provided the contact information to Everything, including the degree mills. This new found morality came about in 1998 with his discovery that accredited schools would pay him well. Until about 1998 Bear could care less which of his listed schools you used.
Can you imagine the millions paid to Bear by Heriot-Watt. I'm told by one man that it was more than 6.4 million well before he sold out, and it probably was 10 million or more by the end of his involvement with HW. I wonder if the students who made Bear rich think (today) that his advice was unbiased and in their best interest? Or, was his advice in his best interest?
The final decision, of course, must be your own. But before dealing with any of the 'Schools' described here, you may wish to give serious thought to acquiring a degree from a bible school instead. They are usually just as decorative, equally valueless, generally much less expensive, and much more likely to be legal.
Why I Provide This Information:
(2) It offers the reader who chooses to ignore my warnings a consumer's guide to Fake Degrees. Why spend $3,000 for a fake doctorate when you can get one that is just as useless for $10.
A final warning: diploma mills move around a great deal, and the nature of their offerings regularly changes. If you must deal with one, don't send any money until you have verified they are still in business, and ready to sell you what you wish.
From page 18:
The present author (one of the original group) assisted in selling the L.I.A.R. business to a gentleman in Holland, who carries it on for personal gain. I have been unable to stop him from using my name on the diplomas. He says he will send me $30 for each one he sells-money I will Gladly Accept and Donate to Good Charities.
From page 20:
Millard Fillmore Institute
But people will find a way to misuse anything. When a high official of a large fundamental Christian Bible School, Freedom University, was found to be claiming his Doctorate from the Millard Fillmore Institute, it seemed time to shut its fictitious gates, Perhaps Forever."
--John Bear, Ph.D., Bonus Report: Diploma Mills of the World, 1982, California, Mendocino Book Company
----------------------------------------------------------
Now this report was just what the world needed, a listing of degree mills and the contact information. You will notice Bear makes no morality statements, just that it might be dangerous and that it was up to you if you wanted to use his list AND RISK IT.
John has gleefully pointed out the magazines and newspapers who provide contact information to schools John now 'Deems questionable'. And yet, John did it first, best, and also for profit. He once again says do as I say, not as I have done.
Of course I'm sure everyone noticed he gladly took the payments from the new owner of "L.I.A.R." It doesn't matter how he used the money (we don't really know if he gave one dime to charities) paid for the use of his name, the point is he took it. And why the hell would someone sell a degree mill instead of just closing it down, hint, he wanted the MONEY.
As many of us have said over and over. Bear didn't give a damn what you did it was up to you. He provided the contact information to Everything, including the degree mills. This new found morality came about in 1998 with his discovery that accredited schools would pay him well. Until about 1998 Bear could care less which of his listed schools you used.
Can you imagine the millions paid to Bear by Heriot-Watt. I'm told by one man that it was more than 6.4 million well before he sold out, and it probably was 10 million or more by the end of his involvement with HW. I wonder if the students who made Bear rich think (today) that his advice was unbiased and in their best interest? Or, was his advice in his best interest?
James
A.S., B.S., M.B.A.
A.S., B.S., M.B.A.
