George Gollin Attacks US Military
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George Gollin has apparently started attacking current and former members of the US Military and Department of Defense in his quest to rid the world of all supposed holders of degrees from Saint Regis University. He doesn't seem to care that some of these individuals have served their country honorably in combat and have been highly decorated for risking their lives in service to this Great Nation. I wonder how many of the soldiers and NCOs mentioned in this article were true victims of the Saint Regis scam. Remember at one time, Saint Regis was considered legal and authenicated so by some recognized credential evaluators in the United States. What I find utter appalling is his malicious reporting of this story to the media in an effort to continue patting himself on the back for his supposed contribution to the downfall of Dixie Randock. Of course he fails to mention he is the source of the report to WHNT.

http://www.degreediscussion.com/forums/v...f=5&t=6715

http://www.whnt.com/news/whnt-fake-diplo...ory?page=1
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Quote:He doesn't seem to care that some of these individuals have served their country honorably in combat and have been highly decorated for risking their lives in service to this Great Nation.

For some reasons I doubt gen. Patton or gen. Lee would even have THOUGHT about buying a dodgy degree...or about buying a degree from Liberia at all...
Maybe it's just me...
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Educational?Truth Wrote:He doesn't seem to care that some of these individuals have served their country honorably in combat and have been highly decorated for risking their lives in service to this Great Nation.

Gollin is a marxist who hates the US military. He is advancing his anti-defense, anti-liberty agenda while continuing to bootstrap his own self-promotion. Hard to believe that anyone--even silly socialist cunts like WHNT's Wendy Halloran--takes him seriously.

Personally I don't see the up side of pissing on people trained to kill. But then I don't have a cloak of invulnerability like Gollin seems to think he has.
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Isn't George Gollin such a "Dick". He needs to join a Dale Carnegie course to brush up on his public speaking. I got an idea. Maybe he could make some additional money selling George Gollin Bobble Head Dolls. Wendy Harroran is a gullible "Bitch". She probably has never served her country one fucking day in her life, yet she has the nerve to destroy the lives of our gallant soldiers returning from war. Stand up and fight and let your opinions be known. Semper Fi
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Educational?Truth Wrote:I got an idea. Maybe he could make some additional money selling George Gollin Bobble Head Dolls.

Although the cranial content would be substantially equivalent to the real thing, I doubt there would be much market for such atrocities, except maybe around Halloween.

On the hierarchy of stupidity (or would that be the "lowerarchy"?) if I had to choose between
a) people who sell fake degrees
b) people who buy fake degrees
c) people who give raises to people who bought fake degrees

I would say it's no contest that those in group c) are by far the most stupid, culpable, and worthy of contempt, scorn and public humiliation.

Back before the development of the internet you had to really knock yourself out to check on somebody's degree. You might have to pick up the phone and call somebody or even splurge on a stamp to send a letter.

But now there is really no excuse for anyone not to know what sort of degree they are being asked to pay out on. It takes all of about a minute to google a school or even less if you are clever enough to bookmark the CHEA database.

So who signed off on giving raises for fake degrees? Why aren't they being embarrassed in public?? If the system is so incredibly complicated and confusing that highly trained and educated HR managers can't be held accountable, then how can unsophisticated students be held to anything less?

As has been discussed here before, several legit degree evaluation services (not just Sheila's) got burned on the Liberian double-cross of SRU. If professionals can't figure it out, how can students be expected to?

Obviously it makes no sense to crucify students in this context, so the fact that Gollin and his ilk are bent on doing so suggests they have ulterior motives. Hatred of our nation's brave defenders certainly may be one explanation, but I'm thinking it's more like Captain Queeg re-living a past moment of glory:

Quote:Another episode which highlights Queeg's behaviors occurs when a quart of strawberries vanish from the wardroom icebox. Remembering how he helped solve a mystery involving a similar theft when he was an ensign earlier in his career, Queeg attempts to recreate his former accomplishment by insisting the strawberries were pilfered by a crewmember with a duplicate key. Queeg orders every key on the ship collected, and a thorough search made. During the search, the captain is confronted with evidence that the messboys ate the strawberries. Queeg loses all enthusiasm for the search, though he orders it to continue, and it is continued in a desultory way amid public mocking of the captain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Queeg#Eccentricity

Gollin will be cutting his own tow line soon enough. Let's just hope that when he drops a dye marker that the only yellow stain he leaves is on himself.
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Educational?Truth Wrote:Maybe he could make some additional money selling George Gollin Bobble Head Dolls.

[Image: GollumHeadKnocker.jpg]
Quote:Gollum approximately 20cm tall. Love him or hate him this is the slimy side of that poor wretched creature from the caverns of Middle Earth. Keep an eye on him as you can never trust Gollum!

Price ?16

http://www.impuzzled.co.uk/im_puzzled/im..._mbh).html
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Quote:But now there is really no excuse for anyone not to know what sort of degree they are being asked to pay out on. It takes all of about a minute to google a school or even less if you are clever enough to bookmark the CHEA database.

So who signed off on giving raises for fake degrees? Why aren't they being embarrassed in public?? If the system is so incredibly complicated and confusing that highly trained and educated HR managers can't be held accountable, then how can unsophisticated students be held to anything less?

It always depends on who does what...not what is being done.
Pedophiles or presumed ones are typically pilloried...yet what about the "Boys' Town' scandal of the late 1980s that involved top people:
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2003/08/100403.shtml
http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/02-19-0...gi.39.html
If Joe Blobb is a pedophile, he deserves to rot in hell...
If pedophiles meet their paramours in the White House...
1 we'll call the paramour 'call boy'...gone are the gut wrenching images of 'children' raped in front of a stuffed Teddy bear...
2 we'll kick it all under the carpet
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They didn't mention the program they had setup for the Military, and the awarding of credits for anything from basic boot camp to advanced training. Several of the men thought it was an approved program, as some of the officers had checked it out, and were informed it was a legit, Liberian government approved program. I remember they awarded something like 30 credits for basic training, then additional credits for rank, special training, prior college, various other training and technical schools. No one has mentioned that some were just totally deceived by the program. This George Gollin is on a witch hunt, and from what I hear, he is out to make a name for himself and has mentioned he doesn't care who suffers from it.
Too bad for some....
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Hello Once Again,

It looks like Eric on Degree Discussion states that WHNT and George Gollin are one sided regarding the article on diploma mills. I am glad that finally someone posting there tells the truth regarding experiential learning. George Gollin and many of the other traditionalists would like you to believe that sitting in a classroom is the only way to earn a degree. Nothing but Bull Shit!!
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"Very interesting report.

But one sided!

SRU was very believable site. With supposed liberian board of education accreditation, making some RA universities accept students to their Master / graduate school with SRU undergrad degrees or even in to post graduate degree programs.

I understand that no work for degree is immediately red light. But we do have valid APEL, VAE and similar portfolio assessments that do take persons career experience, training and expertise and award for that academic credential.

As I hold MCGI from City and Guilds Institute based on Portfolio.

My MCGI cost me a trip to London for interview welll I fly there a lot anyway. And portfolio of avidace , documets signed by HR and Directors of companies that employed me, my other academic credentials, specialized vendor training and consulting training.

NACES charter member evaluated my credentials from City and Guilds establishing equivalency of my LCGI, GCGI and MCGI to us Bachelors and Masters degree from RA university.

TO obtain this credentials took months but to earn them took many years ( 25 or so).

I understand the serious nature of this report and issue and the open venerability to blackmail and national security but so is adultery and other activities of persons , they to open door for blackmail.

I think going to University to earn degree is the traditional way but there are non traditional ways. As long as it done with integrity and provided by recognized accredited body.

Not the case on this report. But this reporters need to be informed that such APEL and VAE routs exist to provide valid ethical full academic degrees to experienced people and not necessary years of study in classroom of university.
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"Way to Go" Eric. Tell Gollin and Wendy Hollaran that they are full of "SHIT".
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Re: WHNT- Huntsville, Alabama story tonight
by Eric on Sun May 17, 2009 8:57 pm

I totally agree. I see the problem.

I think a case for legitimate APEL that is not requiring years in University can be made.

With the views of the reporters my credentials would make an impresion of bogus because they are not earned by traditional classrom or non traditional DL classroom.

As to all the interviews I understand very well the problem and specially when buyers are clearly showing that they are not victims but participant. The lady who didn't want email trail etc.
Eric


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