Anti-Christian Gollin Caught Lying About Liberty
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Unaccredited Frederick Taylor U grad Gabe shows up the buffoon with the fancy Ivy degree. Self-appointed intermeddler George Gollin (George D. Gollin, George Dana Gollin) tries to "correct" Gabe about Liberty University's accreditation. The Sphincter asserts that Liberty has only TRACS accreditation, not RA:

Quote:by g-gollin on Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:25 pm

In the CHEA directory TRACS (which is Liberty's accreditor) is a "National Faith-Related Accrediting Organization" and not a regional accrediting organization.

But this obviously is incorrect, an outright slanderous lie by the anti-Christian Marxist Gollin. Gabe is not intimidated by buffoons like Gollin, so he immediately corrects the record:
Quote:Re: There IS hope for unaccredited degree holders
by Gabe on Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:34 pm

Wrong.

Liberty University is accredited by SACS as you will find on their Institutional Accreditation page: http://www.liberty.edu/index.cfm?PID=7650
"Liberty University is accredited by the Commission on Colleges of the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools to award associate, bachelor, master, and doctoral degrees. Contact the Commission on Colleges at 1866 Southern Lane, Decatur, Georgia 30033-4097 or call 404-679-4500 for questions about the accreditation of Liberty University."

Refer to this June 11, 2008 article "Liberty makes accreditation change": http://tinyurl.com/dg2vvl
"For many years, Liberty has maintained accreditation through both TRACS and the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools (SACS) -- but one accreditation is more than sufficient for the school to keep its strong academic reputation.
"Most schools only have one [accrediting body]," said Liberty University Chancellor Jerry Falwell Jr. "SACS has always been our primary accrediting agency."

Liberty has been accredited by SACS since 1980: http://www.sacscoc.org/details.asp?instid=43000
http://www.degreediscussion.com/forums/v...868#p51981

Careful, Gabe, you are treading on thin ice at DD by exposing the lies of the village idiot Gollin. Expect to be banned by the accreditation nazis and cartel shills. But until then, keep up the good work!
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Herbert Spencer Wrote:Liberty has been accredited by SACS since 1980: http://www.sacscoc.org/details.asp?instid=43000

Shows how lame Gollum really is without 15 people to write his stuff for him.

But that isn't news, is it? Nobody with a functioning brain ever took him seriously in the first place.

Well give Sphincter Boy a break. It only happened 29 years ago. If it wasn't on NPR he might have missed it.

Besides, when you have a treasury secretary who doesn't bother paying his taxes, why would you expect a CHEA director to actually know anything about accreditation?
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Albert Hidel Wrote:
Herbert Spencer Wrote:Liberty has been accredited by SACS since 1980: http://www.sacscoc.org/details.asp?instid=43000

Shows how lame Gollum really is without 15 people to write his stuff for him.

But that isn't news, is it? Nobody with a functioning brain ever took him seriously in the first place.

Well give Sphincter Boy a break. It only happened 29 years ago. If it wasn't on NPR he might have missed it.

Besides, when you have a treasury secretary who doesn't bother paying his taxes, why would you expect a CHEA director to actually know anything about accreditation?

Those jackasses have probably a few ready-made paragraphs with their gospel and only bother to <insert name here>.
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#4
Clueless buffoon Gollin has made an ass of himself once again.
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Herbert Spencer Wrote:Unaccredited Frederick Taylor U grad Gabe shows up the buffoon with the fancy Ivy degree.

George Gollin (George D. Gollin, George Dana Gollin) is not mentioned by name, but certainly the shoe fits:
America's Ivy League College: The Dumbass Factory

Quote:At the top rung of the system (in reputation, at least) are the Ivy League colleges, which have long been diploma mills producing legions of dumbasses, schemers, and charlatans by the bushel, every graduated brain stuffed with the irrational ravings of select madmen and emptied of any shred of humility. Chock full of an insatiable urge to "plan" and the ignorant arrogance to see it through, they are released upon humanity like a viral plague to assume their rightful positions of leadership, forever after to blunder the world into one disaster or another.
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#6
Gollin shows a distinct anti-Christian bias. He appears to hold the Christian schools to a different standard even though he knows shit about Christianity. I hope that new DD poster El Cheapo, a Southern Baptist and Nations U grad student, goes after Gollin for his bias.
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Geoff Vankirk Wrote:Gollin shows a distinct anti-Christian bias.

Gollum, Bear, Levijerkoff, Contreras, Tailpipe Chip, these are all socialists and/or perverts with a distinct agenda that opposes Christian values. The whole "degree mill" witch hunt is just one of several angles they are taking against Christianity.

As William L. Anderson notes in this 2003 article below, "I do not think it is a big step from denying tax-exemption to a church or university for policies involving race to policies that deny pastoral ordination to women and practicing homosexuals." Change "tax-exemption" to "accreditation" and you have the clone party line.
Quote:For example, in California, state judges are compelled to cut any ties they may have to the Boy Scouts of America, which does not permit openly homosexual men to be scoutmasters. Even though the U.S. Supreme Court (by a very narrow 5-4 vote) upheld the Boy Scouts' rights of association, the State of California and the Democratic Party that controls that state government have basically declared the Boy Scouts to be an illegal entity.

While the requirement for judges is based upon "nondiscrimination" policies, it clearly is the first step in what ultimately will be used as a weapon against Christians. After all, it is not only the Boy Scouts that prohibit gays and lesbians from membership; the Roman Catholic, Orthodox, and many Protestant churches also prohibit open, practicing homosexuals to be members of the clergy and many of those same churches also prohibit women from pastoral ordination.

It is hardly a farfetched idea that future governments in California and elsewhere in this country will extend the Boy Scout prohibition to those Christian churches listed above. That is a logical next step and please do not think that people in elected positions, as well as Democratic Party operatives like James Carville, Paul Begala, and Robert Shrum are not already thinking of how they can effectively ban members of the above Christian churches from all positions in government, including teaching in public schools and state higher education. After all, these churches do discriminate on the basis of sex and sexual preferences and whatever thin religious exemptions that might exist now are going to be removed in due time.

Another tool that will be effectively employed against churches is tax exemption. One of the "litmus test" questions that Democrats always ask individuals nominated to be federal judges is whether or not they support the 1983 Supreme Court decision to strip Bob Jones University of its tax-exempt status because it prohibited inter-racial dating at the time, something the Internal Revenue Service held to be "racial discrimination," which it said disqualified the university from being tax-exempt. (Bob Jones has survived nicely and even thrived in the post-IRS atmosphere, but those who supported taking away tax exemption from BJU clearly had hoped it would damage the institution or even force it to close.)

(The other "Big Question" involves a judge's view of Roe vs. Wade, and whether or not the candidate believes the Supreme Court made the right decision, and whether or not that person believes that abortion on demand as practiced in the United States is a good thing. A "no" answer to either question almost always means that person will not be confirmed to the judgeship.)

I do not think it is a big step from denying tax-exemption to a church or university for policies involving race to policies that deny pastoral ordination to women and practicing homosexuals. I'm sure that plenty of Democrats have already floated that balloon within their party and are awaiting only the opportunity to implement such a policy. In fact, the only thing holding them back now is that the Roman Catholic Church is the church home to about half of U.S. population, something that could explode in the Democrats' faces should there be an adverse public reaction.

That is why I believe that the policies of religious disenfranchisement will be implemented piecemeal at the state and local levels. Make no bones about it; that is what many Democratic Party activists are planning for the future, as one cannot expect them to contain their overt hostility to Christians who do not share in their secular, socialist vision of the United States.
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#8
I honestly wasn't trying to create a shitstorm. Dr. Gollin was simply mistaken.

I knowingly enrolled in an unaccredited school and it's not like I didn't do my research and know of its potential shortcomings, etc. I am absolutely certain there are many people in my position (all FTU alumni for starters) and I wanted to come out and publicly talk about my success so that people will realize there is hope. For years there have been generic posts about this school says they "will" accept unaccredited degree holders and this one says they "will not". I, for one, care little about anecdotal evidence. I wanted to find out for myself.

Again, I knew FTU was unaccredited when I enrolled. I was confident it was simply a good unaccredited school (it was by the way) where I could save thousands of dollars. I took a gamble and it paid off. I am absolutely enjoying my time at Liberty. Since I'm a military veteran LU waived the $150.00 per semester technology fee for the duration of the program and capped my tuition at $250.00 per credit hour (the current tuition assitance cap for active duty military members).

As I said on DD a few RA schools turned me away. Liberty did not. They have a great system in place for veterans and I couldn't be happier about the whole thing. I'm enjoying my time and I'm learning a lot. What more could one want from a college experience?
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Gabe Wrote:Dr. Gollin was simply mistaken.

Gollum can't have it both ways.

He wants people to believe that his 16-person collaborative PhD from the Dumbass Factory earns him credibility.

But he also wants us to believe he was just oblivious to Tailpipe Chip the pedo-porn peddler, or his UIUC colleague molesting the mass murderer, or his lesbian daughter's filthy blogs, or his wife's illegal pork peddling, or Liberty actually having RA accreditation since 1980.

If he is as smart as he wants us to think he is then it defies credibility that he just made a "mistake" about Liberty's accreditation when it was so easily verifiable.

On the other hand, if he is the complete bumbling fool he appears to be in every other facet of his life, there is no reason to take him seriously when he makes his grand pronouncements about unaccredited schools.
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