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Albert?Hidel Wrote:Meanwhile, I have a feeling the Board of Directors may be meeting soon to determine whether this gets George Gollin (George D. Gollin, George Dana Gollin) over the top for Hall of Shame admission! 
This place has Directors? Who knew?
Armando?Ramos Wrote:There's only two answers here.
a) Gollin and/or his 15 pals wrote his dissertation, or
Not to put too fine a point on it, but that's like a bunch of answers rolled into one.
a. Gollin wrote it all by himself     
b. All of Gollin's 15 pals wrote it, but not Gollin
c. One or more of the 15 pals, but not all of them, wrote it, but not Gollin
d. Gollin and all his 15 pals wrote it together
e. Gollin and one or more of his 15 pals, but not all of them, wrote it
It seems likely it's d, but b seems like a strong possible too. The least likely answer is a, given that the same paper shows 16 authors 8 months later.
But as you say, judging from the general level of big-heartedness and charity that Gollin extends to others (i.e., none) it's a hard sell that he was giving away authorship credit as freely as the condoms his daughter hands out at school.?
Don?Dresden Wrote:We don't wanna be assholes like George Gollin (George D. Gollin, George Dana Gollin) and accuse the slimy scumbag of something dishonorable based only on speculation, wishful thinking, innuendo and mob action.
The facts speak for themselves. It looks like he and 15 others wrote his dissertation, which was supposed to be his independent work. No one needs to accuse him of anything.
Unless all 15 of the others swear on their mothers they didn't have a thing to do with the dissertation and explain in detail what new contribution each made to the subsequent article, Gollin is full of shit. George Gollin (George D. Gollin, George Dana Gollin) is a complete and total academic fraud in my opinion. Let him prove otherwise, if he can.
The guy has made a hobby out of fucking with people, cyberstalking and generally making a public nuisance of himself.?Why on earth should anyone cut him slack on this?
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Herbert?Spencer Wrote:Not to put too fine a point on it, but that's like a bunch of answers rolled into one.
I don't disagree with that. But focusing on the docs, he either lied about writing the dissertation himself or he lied about the other 15 people writing the article. He's in a logical box and can't have it both ways. A lie is a lie. George Gollin (George D. Gollin, George Dana Gollin) is a proven liar. And since the lie goes to the heart of his academic credentials (i.e., his purported "legitimate" doctorate) he is an academic fraud in my opinion as well. So we are on the same page there. For him to be acting as an "informant" for the feds and stalking people he thinks have credentials inferior to his is just abject hypocrisy. He is a fraud, his degree is a fraud, his "informing" is fraudulent, his entire reason for existence is fraudulent.
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But, as always, he will get away with it....
Armando Ramos Wrote:Dickie Billericay Wrote:Let's connect the dots, shall we?
There's only two answers here.
a) Gollin and/or his 15 pals wrote his dissertation, or
b) Gollin wrote both and then gratuitously put the names of 15 pals on the latter.
Somehow I'm just not seeing that bountiful streak of charitable munificence that would make that second one possible. Either way, the dots say loud and clear that George Gollin (George D. Gollin, George Dana Gollin) is a liar and a fraud.
Here's what Princeton University says (now) about dissertation submissions:
Quote:The dissertation must show that the candidate has technical mastery of the field and is capable of doing independent research.
http://gradschool.princeton.edu/academic...sertation/
Does "independent" mean "by yourself and 15 buddies"? Or only in New Jersey?
So did they give George Gollin (George D. Gollin, George Dana Gollin) a whole PhD diploma or only the 6.25% he actually earned? Talk about your degree mills.
That's why those Ivy League grads are so damn smart! You are getting the grey matter equivalent of 16 certified scholars every time one guy turns in a paper!
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Whatever Wrote:But, as always, he will get away with it....
He hasn't gotten away with anything. He just hasn't been punished yet....
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George Gollin Academic Fraud (George D. Gollin, George Dana Gollin)
Quote:Self-proclaimed diploma mill "expert" and cyberstalker George Gollin (George D. Gollin, George Dana Gollin) has been exposed as an academic fraud.
http://www.dltruth.com/showthread.php?ti...66#pid2166
Gollin's doctoral "dissertation" was not his own independent work, but rather the work of fifteen (15) co-authors.
Connect the dots: UIUC physics professor George Gollin has been proven to be a liar and an academic fraud.
George Gollin is a disgrace to academia. He is a hypocrite whose entire academic career has been founded on a lie. George Gollin should resign from CHEA and resign from UIUC. He should be prosecuted for fraud and deceit for accepting a public pay check knowing his "credentials" were fraudulent.
Sounds about right to me. If all the cops and government paper shufflers caught with bogus degrees are being prosecuted and forced to re-pay their salaries, it only seems right that a physics prof with a bogus degree ought to do the same.
Hey, maybe we can check his wife's dissertation too and get a two-for-one deal on UIUC firing the whole retarded family.
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Gollin admits it!
His dissertation was not "independent" work, but a "collaboration"!
He signed off on his dissertation as the sole author, but now admits that in reality his effort was but 6.25% of a project in which he "collaborated" with 15 others.
http://www.degreediscussion.com/forums/v...180#p45769
Just as expected, his attempt at obfuscation is the usual condescending Gollin drivel (reads like "of course your tiny minds couldn't possibly comprehend how we geniuses do things") combined with his deviant narcissistic rationalization ("everybody does it that way"). But there it is, amongst the juvenile personal insults and irrelevant travel log, the admission of guilt coming through loud and clear.
And just what is up with that perpetual Travel Channel back-monologue? He was running that nonsense on Ray Hill in his email as well. Backpacking in Yosemite this time? My, how special, just you and 10 million others. Maybe Gollin has such fond travel memories because he keeps bumping into Larry Craig in the airport restroom along the way.
Wow, and he never paid a cent in tuition! Remember that you get what you pay for. When you pass off a collaboration as independent work you got 6.25% of nothing. Bogus!
Here's some advice for PhD students from 6.25%Dr. Gollin: Just hire 15 dissertation services and have them write sections of your dissertation for you. Staple the pieces together, sign and submit. If anybody asks just act all condescending and tell them it was a "collaboration." Standard practice for all us extra special, really smart kids. Bogus!
Thanks to 6.25%Dr. George Gollin (George D. Gollin, George Dana Gollin) for admitting what had become painfully obvious: He passed off the work of 15 other people as his own individual, indepedent work.? In so doing he admits he is a liar and an academic fraud.
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06-20-2008, 05:28 PM
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Quote:He signed off on his dissertation as the sole author, but now admits that in reality his effort was but 6.25% of a project in which he "collaborated" with 15 others.
ah...and that was 'customary', thus 'legal'...'hey, but that's legal!'
Who said that already?
let's ask mr. professor why the nobel prize(s) for the discovery of neutrinos [1988, 2002, 1995 ] and their properties were awarded to a handful of people and not to three football teams.
After all, if so many people are required (that is 'how it's done' after all, according to him ), and all are equally contributing, they all should be awarded the prize.
The problem it's like in the movies...Marlon Brando gets the oscar, while Sam Zero is simply billed as 'drunkard n.3'.
Sure, both Marlon Brando and Sam Zero 'star' in the same movie and both can be construed (with good will ) as being part of the 'success' that the movie generated...they are a team, comprising electricians, make-up artists, decor artists, stunts...that awesome acrobatic scene wouldn't be on film without that skilled stuntman...blahblah.
Look at scholar.google.com and see whether Albert Einstein and Edwin Hubble published within a retinue of 27 names.
Ah, maybe that was because they published before the 1970s...
Or because Hubble and Einstein know nothing about physics (Hubble for example first measured -however inaccurately- the distance between galaxies and argued that the universe was expanding, while Einstein thought it was static).
But don't let this bother you professor doctor...people here are clueless idiots, while you have the qualified support of Thomas Chip White, Gus Sainz, Gregg DesElms, uncle Janko, John Bear, George Brown etc...hell...the Nobel prize committee looks like a 'alcol-anon' reunion compared to the first-class 'specialists' you hang out with.
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Herbert?Spencer Wrote:He signed off on his dissertation as the sole author, but now admits that in reality his effort was but 6.25% of a project in which he "collaborated" with 15 others.
As noted here, "In the physical and biological sciences, it's common for papers in journals to have multiple authors -- sometimes dozens of them..."?
However, "Graduate departments do not welcome collaborative dissertations, and the panel didn't suggest that they start doing so."
Perhaps Gollin just didn't get it. Judging from that lame "explanation," maybe he still doesn't get it.
As a public service, Collaboration for Physics Majors:
Collaboration in journal articles = okay
Collaboration on dissertations = not okay
Although, after reading all that bullshit about his really neat friends and his cool vacations I think the answer is a little simpler: He knew damn well he wasn't supposed to collaborate on his dissertation and did it anyway. He figured he'd be 27 years down the road before anybody even noticed.
You know Gollin is just sitting there, picking his nose, scratching his fat ass and saying "Yeah, I collaborated, and so fucking what? Nobody took back MLK's degree for plagiarism and they aren't going to take back mine either."
Has anybody written to Princeton yet? I bet George has. "Some little pricks are going to be writing in, telling you a bunch of lies about me! My dissertation isn't bogus. My wife doesn't sell mutant pigs. My daughter isn't a lesbian. Diploma mill lies, I tell you, lies! Anybody who writes in, give me their names and addresses and I'll turn 'em over to the feds!"
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06-20-2008, 08:31 PM
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Quote:As noted here, "In the physical and biological sciences, it's common for papers in journals to have multiple authors -- sometimes dozens of them..."?
However, "Graduate departments do not welcome collaborative dissertations, and the panel didn't suggest that they start doing so."
everybody knows that but the clique ignores it, much like it ignores the closets packed with their dirty underwear...they cannot prevent the stench from leaking, though.
It must be hard to think you are 'gist fab-ew-looz' and then discover you aren't.
Instead of starring in a world science congress, trolling online in the company of uncle Janko, Thomas Chip White, Gus Sainz, John Bear etc...
What do they do when the curtain closes [that is, when they log-off]?
We can imagine their weather chatter:
*: boy oh boy! Talk about cavernous a$$es...I saw one ten minutes ago
#: There's a sucker born every minute! I sold 5000 phoney degrees in one month in 1970
+: Hey fellas! We are going to the antifascist memorial as we planned, but I suggest we stop and check that massage parlor first...I already reserved for $40.000 so I can write my thesis
@: Phew! I almost forgot to hit the 'boss key' the other day, and my church supervisor almost saw your site on my monitor
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