(03-28-2015, 08:50 AM)JohnBear Wrote: jhc7: He made his change to "they are bad" when John jumped the tracks and did his- Unaccredited is bad-accredited is good, and, oh by the way "I just happen to represent an accredited school--- please send checks"

John: Since 1974, my 'mantra' has been, "Make sure any given degree will meet your current, and your predictable future needs." For many people in many situations, that is, and has been, an unaccredited school. A few years ago, I had the pleasure of testifying as an expert witness in California Superior Court on behalf of a person whose unaccredited degree had been challenged. The school was one I never had any connection with. The defendant prevailed. My total fee was a modest lunch at the diner near the courthouse.'

Hmmm, John, I just don't seem to remember you saying any of this, "If it meets your needs," stuff, in about 10-15 years. It seems to me that your fondness for unaccredited schools ran out when you left Greenwich. Just about when you shifted your money interests to accredited.

Now if you had gone on some of these talk shows and mentioned the fact that you had, at one time, called Kennedy Western a good school, thereby causing some unknown number of people to contact and use such a school, and others, of the type, perhaps we could cut you some slack, but you didn't tell the whole story, did you? You let the unknowing believe you were an accredited virgin, but, in reality you are a well used money whore who would sell anything to anyone, just so the check doesn't bounce. I still have many of your books and sales literature, kindly sent to me by some of your past loyal readers, who you screwed over for money.

Remember giving the interview saying,"All unaccredited schools are bad or worse, "Degree Mills?" Why didn't you tell the reporter that you had books out there saying many of them were good? Poor memory? or just being a slime ball for the time in the press? You always were willing to say or do it all, just keep the camera running. Too bad, John. You once seemed to be sincere in providing useful information to adults seeking degrees that were legal and somewhat useful. BUT, you just wanted some level of fame and the money.

You called Columbia Pacific one of the best and just a few years later dammned one of the graduates as having taken the easy way and his degree being suspect. John, John, you are a bad actor, aren't you? How many did you lead to the doors of the unaccredited schools only to kick sand in their face for listening to your advice?

(02-20-2015, 03:21 PM)Armando Ramos Wrote: Since this is first demurrer, my prediction is that it will be granted on all counts with leave to amend....

Nice call, Armando. The court granted Doogle's demurrer on all counts, with leave to amend.


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The interesting thing here is that Doogle's anti-SLAPP motion to strike was scheduled to be heard May 1, and not at the same time as the demurrer. Granting the demurrer rendered the motion to strike moot, so the judge took it off calendar. Now Doogle will have to come around again with another motion to strike and (presumably) another demurrer. Given that the motion to strike appears well taken, he could have gotten this knocked out sooner rather than later if he (or more accurately, his lawyer) had scheduled them to be heard concurrently.

One good sign is that Charisma was represented at the hearing by a real lawyer. R. Jeffrey Gerber appeared specially for Okpala. Ordinarily I'd wonder about a grown man who can't figure out how to use the caps key, but maybe that's why God invented secretaries.

The ball is back in Charisma's court now, so let's hope attorney Gerber (or somebody) can help Charisma cook up a complaint that will survive the inevitable anti-SLAPP motion to strike.

You can't keep a good man down. Dr. Okpala and Charisma are back with a timely filed amended complaint. Give the guy credit for persistence even if his execution is a little weak.


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It will be interesting to see if the new version will withstand the demurrer and motion to strike that Doogle is sure to file. I'm not seeing anything to suggest it will. In fact, by including web pages showing the actual online discussion this version of the complaint makes the record that Doogle's lady lawyer failed to make on the demurrer. (Remember, her request for judicial notice was denied. Nice to see a judge following the rules.)

If a judge sees this as just some clown spouting off on the internet, he tosses this action, because that's constitutionally protected free speech. A good judge (or a good judge's law clerk) might see how the complaint could be amended to address the missing elements of a disparagement cause of action, but considering that this is the second time around and it's still not there, probably not gonna happen.

This time I would expect to see a demurrer granted without leave to amend, assuming the court doesn't grant the motion to strike first. Presumably Doogle's lady lawyer will manage to get both motions calendared for the same date this time.

As has been noted previously, there would seem to be ample facts available that might show the malicious purposes of "The Gang" and Doogle's participation therein, but Charisma hasn't alleged them in its pleadings or shown any ability to argue them in response to Doogle's motions. So, as with Dr. Dolphin, we probably will see another well-taken legal action going down in flames because the convoluted and expensive legal system denies people of modest means the ability to pursue justice.

(05-03-2015, 11:03 AM)Armando Ramos Wrote: So, as with Dr. Dolphin, we probably will see another well-taken legal action going down in flames...

Speaking of flaming wreckage, there hasn't been a new post at DD since March 16, 2015. Even if Okpala gets nothing out of his lawsuit he would appear to have stuck a knife in the heart of Goose's Goon Squad. Will "Oregon" have the dubious honor of being the last poster there?

(05-03-2015, 05:45 PM)Dickie Billericay Wrote:

(05-03-2015, 11:03 AM)Armando Ramos Wrote: So, as with Dr. Dolphin, we probably will see another well-taken legal action going down in flames...

Speaking of flaming wreckage, there hasn't been a new post at DD since March 16, 2015. Even if Okpala gets nothing out of his lawsuit he would appear to have stuck a knife in the heart of Goose's Goon Squad. Will "Oregon" have the dubious honor of being the last poster there?

I don't think the Judge will grant motion to strike to the defendant nor demurrer without leave to amend. I see the cause of actions on the amended complaint filed by Charisma. I am not an attorney but I would assume that the Judge will be looking for at least one cause of action to throw the case to Jury. My prediction is that the Judge will deny defendant motion to strike and demurrer and will allow the Jury to decide. My guess is that when this case is thrown to Jury to decide, the defendant will seek for settlement with the Plaintiff, Charisma. This is an interesting case and doesn't worth the legal costs defendant is bringing upon himself. I would rather settle with the Plaintiff than letting this case continue. My two cents ...

(05-05-2015, 10:04 PM)frankw Wrote: This is an interesting case and doesn't worth the legal costs defendant is bringing upon himself. I would rather settle with the Plaintiff than letting this case continue. My two cents ...

Agree, FrankW, this certainly could have been an interesting case if the pleadings were stronger. Shoeless Rich should be trying to explain why he's not an integral part of the Klempner Klone Kadre, along with his co-defendants Goose and Tailpipe Chip. Instead he's going to get away because there are no facts being alleged in the complaint or proven in response to the motion to strike that tie him to the group's abusive, destructive conduct other than popping off on a couple of obscure internet discussion boards.

I think Douglas does think the legal costs are worth it. One reason is that he's probably going to get them back, or at least obtain a judgment for them, with his anti-SLAPP motion. Another is that he lacks Klempner's charm and sense of humor and thus cannot cajole, coax, inveigle or persuade anyone that it's all just a delightful but harmless kerfuffle. Finally, if he wins he thinks he may finally convince Levijerkoff that he (Doogle) really does have a pair after all.

RCD and JohnB have never shown any desire to be anything other than what they are. They see themselves as the Darcy ( Pride and Prejudice ) of their tiny little sphere. I don't believe anything short of a big loss of money would ever shut them up. Freedom of speech?? I don't remember either one being a champion of other people having that right. When I used to say that a person should have the legal right to make the choice of legally operating unaccredited schools, they quickly began the shill-liar-fraud chants we all remember so fondly...... So for me, they can go straight to hell and be sued into the stone age.

Both Bear and Douglas were involved with unaccredited schools and continued to do so until Bear moved on to GREENER pastures. They then got religion, changed their past, to the best of their ability, and then began to attack the very people who listened to them in the guides and advertisements. Yes he did, John Bear called Kennedy Western and many others like it good schools.

Bear only started liking the accredited schools when he saw it was to his own advantage. Douggie did it when the Alpha smell (Bear) did it first. Fools follow where the frauds lead them.

Thank you for your charming letter, jhc7:

You write, "Bear only started liking the accredited schools when he saw it was to his own advantage."

Bear: Oh, really? How, then, do you explain the fact that the first edition of Bear's Guide (1974) -- and indeed every subsequent edition -- was a ringing endorsement of the accredited schools offering degrees by distance learning.

In 1990, the Registrar of the regionally-accredited University of the State of New York (now Excelsior) wrote that more than 50% of their thousands of students had learned about the school because of their listing in Bear's Guide.

And by the way, the name is Klempner.

Hmmm, How many learned about Columbia Pacific-Greenwich-Fairfax (Your stuff) Kennedy Western, which you called a good school in your guide (100 Good Schools) Kensington-Newport-Pacific Western......etc. ???

I eagerly await the numbers of people you sold the idea of unaccredited as good.

Klempner?? I thought you were calling yourself Bear. Any other names out there you have used ? Maybe the way you hid the fact that you were one of the people doing L.I.A.R. in your 1980 guide. You, of course mentioned that you were the papa of this mill only later.

Ahhh, John you have lied so often I doubt you even remember all the stories you have told.

I'm curious what exactly made Kennedy Western good enough to put in your (100 Good Schools guide) ?
Why list Summit? Another school you later trashed. But it was in the 100 Good Schools book.

And way did you, by mail, tell me that Greenwich was a good choice for me? You also wrote that you wouldn't have become involved with it if it wasn't good.

Why did you list Clayton as number three in your 1980 book, among the unaccredited schools you recommended? Columbia Pacific was your first suggestion, hmmm, very interesting this, now why?

You never answered my question about why you lied about being the full time president of Greenwich for 5 years. You posted that I was lying and that you never said that, but when I gave the page and guide book in which you said it you stopped posting. Your post said you were connected to Greenwich for about one and a half years. Yet the guide book, that you wrote, said you were the full time president for 5 years. I would have thought that a person would have remembered such a thing, but, maybe not. Maybe in your world the truth is more fluid and distant. To us poor mortals the truth is more fixed and solid.

You see, John, people expect a guide to know where he is taking them, and that he will not decide, halfway, that he hasn't a clue as to what he is doing. Kennedy Western is good, it's a joke. Both can't be true. In which case were you lying?

Here is my view of you. You didn't give a damn if the schools were good or bad. You wanted to reach the widest audience possible. You even listed the contact information for the mills. You said, if you remember, use them at your own risk.

This is what makes it so easy for you to now say that unaccredited schools are all bad or worse, mills. You never believed the stuff you wrote in the guides. It was just smoke and mirrors. Good, bad, what does it matter if you are only hyping and selling.

You said that Columbia Pacific had the best staff and best results of any school of the kind. Different story you tell now.

By the way John Gray was a student at Columbia Pacific during your time as an owner of the school. And yet you trashed him on TV. The system, as you once bragged, that CPU used was one you helped design. If what Gray did was not enough, then why did you not make it better? If it was good enough for you to brag about it should have been good enough for Gray to have used.