DD member calls for shutting down DL Truth
#1
Who is this loser calebwilds anyway? He appears to be a newbie who is upset with the DL Truth discussion of Uncle Janko's passing. He joined DD a scant 3 weeks prior to Janko's untimely departure yet somehow believes that he fully understands the complex relationship Unc had with this board and its members. This great insight somehow entitles him to call for this forum's closure in light of what he considers especially distasteful comments.

DD thread calling for DL Truth closure

First, I consider some of the comments made very distasteful and the antithesis of my own comments. (shown here) That doesn't give me the right to ask that those comments be censored.

Second, calebwilds doesn't have the benefit of recent DL fora history to understand the bigger picture. DL Truth was launched on the heels if the DI scandal and the establishment of DD by Gus Sainz. Gus, being the narrow-minded asswipe that he is, demanded adherence to "the party line" and within days kicked out the bulk of what became the early DL Truth membership. Shutting down DL Truth would effectively be the endorsement of the "RA or No Way" ideology embraced by Sainz, Gollin, Contreras, et al. and the silencing of any real opposition in the distance education arena. DL Truth serves that opposition function, often by employing satire and parody to humorously expose the foibles and occasional hypocrisy of its ideological opponents.
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[i]by calebwilds on Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:14 pm

Well, the least we could do is make some calls. I have family that's in the Italian mafia.................[/
i]

Doesn't the above post constitute a threat, in the legal sense, to the lives of all posters of this board?
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by Jack on Sat Feb 14, 2009 2:38 am

Jack wrote:
I think that all you'd need to do is strip them of their anonymity. That site would then die in a day.

Step #1
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1283120

subtitle: Dennis begins to worry


Dennis signs with his real name on this board, why then should he worry about his "anonymity"???

And that goes for rational thinking at DD!!!
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Someone Wrote:Dennis signs with his real name on this board, why then should he worry about his "anonymity"???

And that goes for rational thinking at DD!!!

Apparently I am worried because some judge in Ontario doesn't think that he should follow the rule of clearly written legislation concerning search warrants in telecommunications cases involving child porn. The worst I've ever done is hurt someone's egomaniacal feelings. I try to avoid directly libeling people by offering opinion, not stated fact, unless the facts are third-party and self-evident. eg Miami-Dade County Recorder.

It is clear that some people at Degreediscussion are not comfortable with debate and they and degreeinfo clean house regularly so as to speak with one voice. This site wouldn't exist if everyone was as agreeable as the DI/DD clones.

To the Janko thing. I actually liked Janko. Unfortunately he lacked the ability to appreciate the other side of an argument as anything but irrational and to be subjected to scorn. Sure, I sparred with him and he sparred with me. I helped scour the internet matching details he mentioned to real life people and Redlyne eventually found him. It was shining a little light on anonymity but in Janko's case the roaches never scattered when the lights came on.

I don't understand the DD reasoning that DL Truth has somehow gone beyond having the right to free speech. Many of the people here thought Janko to be a lesser being during his lifetime and would be hypocritical to suddenly change their minds. They would be insulting the memory of Janko to say - yes he was a good soul. To them, he was not and is not.
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Someone Wrote:[i]by calebwilds on Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:14 pm

Well, the least we could do is make some calls. I have family that's in the Italian mafia.................[/
i]

What a racist comment. There is no Italian mafia. It was invented by Hollywood and the FBI looking for a scapegoat for their incompetence. I've got a couple Guinea friends who'd love to ice someone for such racist garbage.
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Quote:I think that all you'd need to do is strip them of their anonymity. That site would then die in a day.

That is what this site did and that's why they are oh-so-offended.

Quote:To my knowledge, although Chip likes young-looking guys ("twinks" in gay lingo), I have never seen any evidence that he is a pedophile and would hope that, in his unrelated-to-DL business endeavors, he is careful enough not to cross the legal line. In other words, if Chip protographs a 10-year-old kid naked, he's legally a pedophile. If he photographs a 19-year-old kid who merely looks 10 years old, he is not. If he gets his rcks off fantasizing a make-believe 10-year-old kid, he's psychologically a pedophile but not legally one. If he has actual porn pictures of a 10-year-old kid, then he has crossed the legal line (and I am not in a position to know whether he has ever had any).

Perfect...
The kind of people to appear in court invoking the thunder of the God of Israel...


Quote:Well, the least we could do is make some calls. I have family that's in the Italian mafia.................

Will they still be awake when you finish the graveyard shift as second fry cook at the burgher joint?
Please...I can squeeze oranges with my butt-cheeks...
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[quote=levicoff]

[quote]To my knowledge, although Chip likes young-looking guys ("twinks" in gay lingo), I have never seen any evidence that he is a pedophile and would hope that, in his unrelated-to-DL business endeavors, he is careful enough not to cross the legal line. In other words, if Chip protographs a 10-year-old kid naked, he's legally a pedophile. If he photographs a 19-year-old kid who merely looks 10 years old, he is not. If he gets his rcks off fantasizing a make-believe 10-year-old kid, he's psychologically a pedophile but not legally one. If he has actual porn pictures of a 10-year-old kid, then he has crossed the legal line (and I am not in a position to know whether he has ever had any).[/quote]

I thought Levicoff studied law - Oh! That was at Union. Do they offer law or have any faculty members conversant in the subject? It's such a good school, I guess that's irrelevant.

I might also suggest that the legal definition of pedophilia is irrelevant. I don't know that by common English usage pedophilia doesn't involve creepy looking old men taking pictures of 19 year old children, especially those pretending to look younger.
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#8
Dennis Ruhl Wrote:It was shining a little light on anonymity but in Janko's case the roaches never scattered when the lights came on.

It was Klempner himself who first mentioned Janko's real name--John Weaver-Hudson--in one of his little books.  He was thanking all the suckers, oops, I mean scholars who contributed work for no pay.  People like affluent Gus, who obviously has a lot of projects going with a similar pay scale.

So if the clones are looking for people to blame for the adverse comments their hypocrisy earns them, they ought to start looking a little closer to home.  

And we all know John Bjorn Bear is really John Andrew Klempner, "playing coach of the Reed College tennis team in 1957, the year we actually beat Oregon State," who fools no one using the Reed College alumni email address or the computers at the Berkeley Public Library.
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