Breyer State
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Student Wrote:I see your point but in my view there was hand full of schools you just mentioned in comparison to 2007 when every school offers classes and many schools in hundreds or maybe 1000's offer degree programs via DL.
In 70 as I stated you had few and I think I learned about the accredited USNY, Edison, Charter Oak, CIE, UK OU etc from Bears Guide.
Its not like he was hiding the legitimate schools, he did a good job in explaining the value of accreditation and at that time the value of unaccredited degrees. He also helped me and others to avoid embarrassment and get easy degree for life experience, I must admit I almost mailed a 2000 USD check to some mom an pops outfit.
I do remember that he made many degree mill operators really upset for exposing their fraudulent operations.
Yes I also remember that for some time he promoted the GU in Hawaii but he openly stated his involvement with them and the fact that at the time Hawaii didn't have laws regulating schools and the fact the the faculty of GU were all with earned accredited degrees unlike like many frauds schools with people who had their degrees from the same outfit.
Is Dr Bear an Angel no he is a business man in my view but what I read here is you make him in to devil and I think in my view its not the case.
I don't wish to turn this in to Bear bashing tread but I can understand why some are mad at him.
As far as RD I'm not that familiar with this mans work or degrees, only from what I read on the internet and I also think that some here over zealot and try to destroy his reputation and heart him.
Then quoting his disertation and using it against him.
From what I read he adjusted his views based on changes in DL market and legality of such degrees.
Yes his degrees are from non traditional universities.
And the only difference I may have with him and I don't know him at all but from what I read is to stress that not all accredited degrees are equal and I think he knows that.
Whats wrong with advising a person to earn an accredited degree?
Is it a crime?
He can't force a person to do so.
I do understand that this is bad for the business of unaccredited schools on all levels.

Nonsense, you are simply repeating warmed over Bear crap and you are proving nothing except stating your opinions that favor everything Bear did.  He recommended unaccredited schools as good choices that he now denies saying.

Now here are the facts:
"Excelsior was founded in 1971 by the board of Regents of the University of the State of New York as The Regents External Degree Program, a Publicly-funded external -degree-granting unit of the New York State Education Department.

Excelsior 1971

Again prove what you are saying with links or quotes, or references that show what you are claiming. Show the information from the 70's Bear works that say people should choose accredited options first or at all. I want what we are showing, page number, book title, year printed. If you are going to claim he said this or that, prove it.
James
A.S., B.S., M.B.A.
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Breyer State - by Ben Johnson - 06-24-2007, 02:34 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Brian Crawford - 06-24-2007, 03:53 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Ben Johnson - 06-25-2007, 02:51 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Randall Flagg - 06-25-2007, 03:39 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Ben Johnson - 06-25-2007, 04:37 AM
RE: Breyer State - by DR ANATIDAE - 06-25-2007, 06:39 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Truth - 06-25-2007, 01:16 PM
RE: Breyer State - by Student - 11-18-2007, 03:32 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Ben Johnson - 11-18-2007, 06:31 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Student - 11-18-2007, 11:37 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Ben Johnson - 11-19-2007, 03:38 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Student - 11-19-2007, 12:41 PM
RE: Breyer State - by Whatever - 11-19-2007, 01:40 PM
RE: Breyer State - by Student - 11-20-2007, 02:34 PM
RE: Breyer State - by Whatever - 11-20-2007, 02:59 PM
RE: Breyer State - by Randall Flagg - 11-18-2007, 01:14 PM
RE: Breyer State - by ham - 11-18-2007, 02:14 PM
RE: Breyer State - by Randall Flagg - 11-19-2007, 03:32 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Randall Flagg - 11-20-2007, 04:17 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Student - 11-20-2007, 05:30 PM
RE: Breyer State - by Whatever - 11-21-2007, 06:05 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Student - 11-21-2007, 03:32 PM
RE: Breyer State - by ham - 11-20-2007, 06:17 PM
RE: Breyer State - by Randall Flagg - 11-21-2007, 06:03 PM
RE: Breyer State - by Student - 11-22-2007, 01:58 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Whatever - 11-22-2007, 07:44 AM
RE: Breyer State - by ham - 11-21-2007, 06:35 PM
RE: Breyer State - by ham - 11-22-2007, 09:14 AM
RE: Breyer State - by DR ANATIDAE - 11-22-2007, 10:00 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Randall Flagg - 11-22-2007, 10:33 AM
RE: Breyer State - by ham - 11-22-2007, 07:14 PM
RE: Breyer State - by Randall Flagg - 11-23-2007, 02:13 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Randall Flagg - 11-23-2007, 02:21 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Student - 11-23-2007, 03:18 AM
RE: Breyer State - by ham - 11-23-2007, 06:27 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Randall Flagg - 11-23-2007, 01:56 PM
RE: Breyer State - by Randall Flagg - 11-23-2007, 02:29 PM
RE: Breyer State - by Student - 11-23-2007, 04:17 PM
RE: Breyer State - by Randall Flagg - 11-24-2007, 01:35 PM
RE: Breyer State - by DR ANATIDAE - 11-24-2007, 03:30 PM
RE: Breyer State - by ham - 11-23-2007, 05:28 PM
RE: Breyer State - by Student - 11-24-2007, 03:01 AM
RE: Breyer State - by ham - 11-24-2007, 03:30 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Student - 11-24-2007, 04:46 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Ben Johnson - 11-24-2007, 05:18 AM
RE: Breyer State - by ham - 11-24-2007, 08:39 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Student - 11-24-2007, 08:48 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Randall Flagg - 11-24-2007, 09:03 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Student - 11-24-2007, 10:02 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Student - 11-24-2007, 09:51 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Whatever - 11-24-2007, 11:06 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Randall Flagg - 11-24-2007, 11:53 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Randall Flagg - 11-24-2007, 12:09 PM
RE: Breyer State - by Randall Flagg - 11-24-2007, 01:47 PM
RE: Breyer State - by Student - 11-24-2007, 04:11 PM
RE: Breyer State - by DR ANATIDAE - 11-25-2007, 03:38 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Student - 11-25-2007, 05:03 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Randall Flagg - 11-25-2007, 11:38 AM
RE: Breyer State - by ham - 11-24-2007, 06:17 PM
RE: Breyer State - by Student - 11-24-2007, 07:33 PM
RE: Breyer State - by Randall Flagg - 11-24-2007, 08:02 PM
RE: Breyer State - by Randall Flagg - 11-24-2007, 07:50 PM
RE: Breyer State - by ham - 11-24-2007, 09:01 PM
RE: Breyer State - by Ben Johnson - 11-25-2007, 01:35 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Student - 11-25-2007, 02:09 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Student - 11-25-2007, 04:08 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Randall Flagg - 11-25-2007, 11:24 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Student - 11-25-2007, 04:22 PM
RE: Breyer State - by DR ANATIDAE - 11-25-2007, 05:16 PM
RE: Breyer State - by Student - 11-26-2007, 03:45 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Randall Flagg - 11-26-2007, 03:56 AM
RE: Breyer State - by DR ANATIDAE - 11-26-2007, 11:16 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Whatever - 11-26-2007, 02:18 PM
RE: Breyer State - by Randall Flagg - 11-27-2007, 03:23 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Student - 11-27-2007, 11:22 AM
RE: Breyer State - by DR ANATIDAE - 11-27-2007, 04:57 PM
RE: Breyer State - by Randall Flagg - 11-27-2007, 03:03 PM
RE: Breyer State - by Student - 11-27-2007, 10:52 PM
RE: Breyer State - by ham - 11-28-2007, 03:20 AM
RE: Breyer State - by Randall Flagg - 11-28-2007, 04:48 AM
RE: Breyer State - by DR ANATIDAE - 11-28-2007, 06:27 AM
RE: Breyer State - by ham - 11-28-2007, 08:20 AM

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