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			<title><![CDATA[APUS Resigns DETC Accreditation]]></title>
			<link>https://www.dltruth.com/thread-1358.html</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 15:01:45 -0400</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.dltruth.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=51">Albert Hidel</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Bad news for students unfortunate enough to be studying at APUS/AMU.  DETC has been one of the most responsive accreditation agencies in defending and assisting students getting hosed by abusive or non-responsive college administrators.  Regional accreditors literally do nothing about student complaints.  Now that the most aggressive advocate of equitable treatment for students has been jettisoned, expect the worst from the borderline illiterates running APUS.<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Resigned DETC Accreditation </span><br />
The American Public University System (American Military University and American Public University), Charles Town, WV, resigned its DETC accreditation as of April 30, 2012. </blockquote>
<a href="http://www.detc.org/actions/051012_AC_meeting_report.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.detc.org/actions/051012_AC_me...report.pdf</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Bad news for students unfortunate enough to be studying at APUS/AMU.  DETC has been one of the most responsive accreditation agencies in defending and assisting students getting hosed by abusive or non-responsive college administrators.  Regional accreditors literally do nothing about student complaints.  Now that the most aggressive advocate of equitable treatment for students has been jettisoned, expect the worst from the borderline illiterates running APUS.<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Resigned DETC Accreditation </span><br />
The American Public University System (American Military University and American Public University), Charles Town, WV, resigned its DETC accreditation as of April 30, 2012. </blockquote>
<a href="http://www.detc.org/actions/051012_AC_meeting_report.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.detc.org/actions/051012_AC_me...report.pdf</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[DOD: APUS has "HUGE" Dropout Rate]]></title>
			<link>https://www.dltruth.com/thread-1309.html</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:39:44 -0500</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.dltruth.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=57">Yancy Derringer</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>The newly released DOD data shows that six of the top ten recipients of Tuition Assistance are for-profit schools: <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">American Public Education, Inc</span>., Bridgepoint Education, Inc., TUI Learning, LLC, Apollo Group, Inc., Columbia Southern University, and Grantham University.  Those six companies, alone, collect 41 percent of all TA dollars. . . .<br />
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Analysis by the HELP Committee also showed that the schools receiving the largest sums of money have<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"> huge </span>amounts of students dropping out of school.</blockquote>
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<a href="http://www.insidehighered.com/sites/default/server_files/files/022312_DOD%20TA%20Data%20Background%20Document.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.insidehighered.com/sites/defa...cument.pdf</a><br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>The newly released DOD data shows that six of the top ten recipients of Tuition Assistance are for-profit schools: <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">American Public Education, Inc</span>., Bridgepoint Education, Inc., TUI Learning, LLC, Apollo Group, Inc., Columbia Southern University, and Grantham University.  Those six companies, alone, collect 41 percent of all TA dollars. . . .<br />
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Analysis by the HELP Committee also showed that the schools receiving the largest sums of money have<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"> huge </span>amounts of students dropping out of school.</blockquote>
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<a href="http://www.insidehighered.com/sites/default/server_files/files/022312_DOD%20TA%20Data%20Background%20Document.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.insidehighered.com/sites/defa...cument.pdf</a><br />
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			<title><![CDATA[AMU Ripoff Report]]></title>
			<link>https://www.dltruth.com/thread-1076.html</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 00:10:46 -0400</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.dltruth.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=57">Yancy Derringer</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Here's what they are saying about American Military University(AMU)/American Public University (APUS) at Ripoff Report.  Just like NCU, the shills come out of the woodwork to post phony, transparent rebuttals.  <br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><a href="http://www.ripoffreport.com/adult-career-continuing-education/american-military-un/american-military-university-22acc.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-size: x-large;" class="mycode_size">American Military University AMU Degree mill - setting the bar low</span></a><br />
Submitted: Tuesday, February 16, 2010<br />
Last posting: Saturday, March 19, 2011 <br />
<br />
AMU is a rip off when it comes to quality of education.  If you are considering this for profit university please consider the following experiences and be critical with endorsements of current or previous students, their comments and recommendations are bias.  I would defend this university too if I have invested time and effort towards a degree with them.<br />
 <br />
First of all I'm not a student of AMU, because for profit universities have an interest not for quality of education but rather profits.  My sources come from many military students currently attending this university. <br />
 <br />
All my friends taking classes with this university laugh at how easy it is to get a degree.  Basically if you put some minimal time, minimal effort and a ton of money you will eventually get a degree.  Classes are about 8 weeks long, with very few being 16 weeks long.  My friend takes 3 classes per 8 week period with no effort at all. At this rate anyone can have a 4 year degree in a little over 2 years.  But my friend will be done way before that since he got a ton of questionable credits for being in the military.<br />
 <br />
The curriculum is a joke.  The main part of the curriculum is based on on-line discussion between a bunch of students who try to answer one or two selected questions posted by the instructor.  The questions are extremely easy but most of the time the conversation turns to an off-topic conversation.  The instructors hardly instruct.  The five people I have asked all taking different classes with different instructors told me about the indifference and lack of participation of the instructors.  They are there just to post and grade assignments.  <br />
<br />
True some of the instructors are probably experienced people in their fields working full times. They don't have the time to be full time teachers like real universities.  They are there for the easy paycheck not the passion to teach.<br />
 <br />
The books are free but most of the time they are not complete versions just excerpts.  At the end of the semester you turn around and sell the book back to them, so in essence the price of the book is included in the HIGH tuition.<br />
 <br />
Some classes usually require a paper to write.  Since instructors are not really there to teach, they leave it up to the students to pick a subject.  One of my friends, submits the same paper for every class every semester.  He is getting by and will get a degree and only had to write one paper.  I took a look at his paper and I can only describe it as mediocre with grammar, and style errors.  He gets an "A" every time so I know his paper don't get read.  By the way he is a senior in AMU and don't even know how to reference a paper using APA or MLA!<br />
 <br />
Their quizzes and tests are all open book.  There are not proctored tests.  So why even bother with a test? if you have to look all the answers.  They are not testing your knowledge gained but rather how fast can you look up information in a book.  As a result none of the people I know who is enrolled in AMU even reads their free book.<br />
 <br />
Back to the conferences, my friends use Wikipedia and the web to answer their online discussions.  They just cut and paste and maybe change a few words and pass it as their own.<br />
 <br />
The sad part about this, is that my friends honestly believe they are getting a good education.  One of my friends was took an economics course, I quizzed him some basic principles and had no idea what I was talking about.<br />
 <br />
If you just want an easy degree, with little work then AMU or other for profits are for you.  If you want a good education then seek a non for profit or a real university.  There was an article in the news not long ago, where job recruiters admitted they don't hire people with for profit university's degrees for mid level management positions. </blockquote>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Here's what they are saying about American Military University(AMU)/American Public University (APUS) at Ripoff Report.  Just like NCU, the shills come out of the woodwork to post phony, transparent rebuttals.  <br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><a href="http://www.ripoffreport.com/adult-career-continuing-education/american-military-un/american-military-university-22acc.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-size: x-large;" class="mycode_size">American Military University AMU Degree mill - setting the bar low</span></a><br />
Submitted: Tuesday, February 16, 2010<br />
Last posting: Saturday, March 19, 2011 <br />
<br />
AMU is a rip off when it comes to quality of education.  If you are considering this for profit university please consider the following experiences and be critical with endorsements of current or previous students, their comments and recommendations are bias.  I would defend this university too if I have invested time and effort towards a degree with them.<br />
 <br />
First of all I'm not a student of AMU, because for profit universities have an interest not for quality of education but rather profits.  My sources come from many military students currently attending this university. <br />
 <br />
All my friends taking classes with this university laugh at how easy it is to get a degree.  Basically if you put some minimal time, minimal effort and a ton of money you will eventually get a degree.  Classes are about 8 weeks long, with very few being 16 weeks long.  My friend takes 3 classes per 8 week period with no effort at all. At this rate anyone can have a 4 year degree in a little over 2 years.  But my friend will be done way before that since he got a ton of questionable credits for being in the military.<br />
 <br />
The curriculum is a joke.  The main part of the curriculum is based on on-line discussion between a bunch of students who try to answer one or two selected questions posted by the instructor.  The questions are extremely easy but most of the time the conversation turns to an off-topic conversation.  The instructors hardly instruct.  The five people I have asked all taking different classes with different instructors told me about the indifference and lack of participation of the instructors.  They are there just to post and grade assignments.  <br />
<br />
True some of the instructors are probably experienced people in their fields working full times. They don't have the time to be full time teachers like real universities.  They are there for the easy paycheck not the passion to teach.<br />
 <br />
The books are free but most of the time they are not complete versions just excerpts.  At the end of the semester you turn around and sell the book back to them, so in essence the price of the book is included in the HIGH tuition.<br />
 <br />
Some classes usually require a paper to write.  Since instructors are not really there to teach, they leave it up to the students to pick a subject.  One of my friends, submits the same paper for every class every semester.  He is getting by and will get a degree and only had to write one paper.  I took a look at his paper and I can only describe it as mediocre with grammar, and style errors.  He gets an "A" every time so I know his paper don't get read.  By the way he is a senior in AMU and don't even know how to reference a paper using APA or MLA!<br />
 <br />
Their quizzes and tests are all open book.  There are not proctored tests.  So why even bother with a test? if you have to look all the answers.  They are not testing your knowledge gained but rather how fast can you look up information in a book.  As a result none of the people I know who is enrolled in AMU even reads their free book.<br />
 <br />
Back to the conferences, my friends use Wikipedia and the web to answer their online discussions.  They just cut and paste and maybe change a few words and pass it as their own.<br />
 <br />
The sad part about this, is that my friends honestly believe they are getting a good education.  One of my friends was took an economics course, I quizzed him some basic principles and had no idea what I was talking about.<br />
 <br />
If you just want an easy degree, with little work then AMU or other for profits are for you.  If you want a good education then seek a non for profit or a real university.  There was an article in the news not long ago, where job recruiters admitted they don't hire people with for profit university's degrees for mid level management positions. </blockquote>
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			<title><![CDATA[AMU Idiocy]]></title>
			<link>https://www.dltruth.com/thread-1075.html</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:04:09 -0400</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.dltruth.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=57">Yancy Derringer</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[This comes to me directly from an AMU admin, who for obvious reasons shall remain nameless.  <br />
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This is an actual weekly "forum" assignment in AMU class INTL 506 Analytics II.  I'm told this is a required course in the AMU Intelligence Studies masters program.<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>This week you read two authors who discussed reforming the way we "do" intelligence analysis. <br />
<br />
Please do the following: <br />
<br />
1. Reply to the post. <br />
<br />
2. Assess the arguments of each other and explain why you agree or disagree. <br />
<br />
3. Answer the following question. Drawing on your own personal experience analyzing problems, do beleive that all "good" analysts need to behave the way the authors say they do? Why or why not? <br />
<br />
4. Reply to the posts of two of your classmates.</blockquote>
<br />
Presumably they meant assess the work of each "author," not each "other," but it's anybody's guess.  "Believe" is spelled incorrectly, and if it is a question it is "do you believe," not "do beleive."  You don't read authors, you read the work of authors.  <br />
<br />
Now is there anybody out there that thinks this is appropriate academic writing at any level (including elementary school and kindergarten), let alone for graduate level courses?  This obviously was written by an idiot, and it apparently is part of multiple courses taught by multiple different instructors, none of whom has bothered to correct it or even noticed it.<br />
<br />
This isn't the only example I've received, and I'll be sharing some more in the next few posts.  I'm glad to see AMU getting the notoriety it deserves here and hope that they clean house soon, before somebody notices that they are ripping off US miltary personnel with crap programs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This comes to me directly from an AMU admin, who for obvious reasons shall remain nameless.  <br />
<br />
This is an actual weekly "forum" assignment in AMU class INTL 506 Analytics II.  I'm told this is a required course in the AMU Intelligence Studies masters program.<br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>This week you read two authors who discussed reforming the way we "do" intelligence analysis. <br />
<br />
Please do the following: <br />
<br />
1. Reply to the post. <br />
<br />
2. Assess the arguments of each other and explain why you agree or disagree. <br />
<br />
3. Answer the following question. Drawing on your own personal experience analyzing problems, do beleive that all "good" analysts need to behave the way the authors say they do? Why or why not? <br />
<br />
4. Reply to the posts of two of your classmates.</blockquote>
<br />
Presumably they meant assess the work of each "author," not each "other," but it's anybody's guess.  "Believe" is spelled incorrectly, and if it is a question it is "do you believe," not "do beleive."  You don't read authors, you read the work of authors.  <br />
<br />
Now is there anybody out there that thinks this is appropriate academic writing at any level (including elementary school and kindergarten), let alone for graduate level courses?  This obviously was written by an idiot, and it apparently is part of multiple courses taught by multiple different instructors, none of whom has bothered to correct it or even noticed it.<br />
<br />
This isn't the only example I've received, and I'll be sharing some more in the next few posts.  I'm glad to see AMU getting the notoriety it deserves here and hope that they clean house soon, before somebody notices that they are ripping off US miltary personnel with crap programs.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Beware VALERIE DAVIS Apus/AMU]]></title>
			<link>https://www.dltruth.com/thread-1056.html</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 05:12:00 -0400</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.dltruth.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=817">d06turf</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Fuck you VALERIE DAVIS, illiterate piece of shit. AMU is going to fire your stupid incompetent ass.<br />
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APU/AMU students, if you made the mistake of enrolling in a class "taught" by the moronic turd VALERIE DAVIS, immediately withdraw or you will be sorry. She is a complete fucking idiot who can barely write English and who has to copy her course materials from others because she is too fucking stupid to think up her own. Be warned.<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Fuck you VALERIE DAVIS, illiterate piece of shit. AMU is going to fire your stupid incompetent ass.<br />
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APU/AMU students, if you made the mistake of enrolling in a class "taught" by the moronic turd VALERIE DAVIS, immediately withdraw or you will be sorry. She is a complete fucking idiot who can barely write English and who has to copy her course materials from others because she is too fucking stupid to think up her own. Be warned.<br />
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