What John Bear really said!!
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(03-07-2012, 02:01 AM)Ben Johnson Wrote: Someone might like to eat in a $100 restaurant. If they do not have $100 they do not starve. They might go to a $3.95 restaurant or anywhere in between.

Yes, but if that same person roots around in the dumpster out back, he/she might eat, but that doesn't make the dumpster a restaurant.
Quote:Someone who is challenged by academics and does not have $50,000 for a doctorate, might opt for the $5 - 10,000 doctorate. The academic world has mileposts and lack of ability to physically attend of afford the tuition shouldn't be a big sin.

Except this isn't about a sliding scale. All over the world there are standards for what is and is not a university. Lower costs do not change that--degrees from unaccredited schools don't become better because they are cheaper.

The $50k figure you cite is misleading; there are many accredited options available for much less money.
Quote:In case you hadn't noticed a whole whack of people do not attend school to get a job so utility is somewhat of a red herring.

Fine, but that cuts both ways. The reasons for purchasing such a credential do not have an impact on whether it is better or worse--it is what it is.
Quote:Although they are indications accreditation is no guarantee of quality and lack of accreditation does not guarantee lack of quality.

This polarity is a function of weak logic-making. It isn't "either/or," but instead "yes, and." No "guarantees" on either side. But assurances? That's another question. There is simply no way a lack of standards (in the unaccredited world) provides a comparable level of insight into the quality of said schools. No way. You always know what you're getting with an accredited school. The same is not true with unaccredited schools--even if there are a few exceptions.

Also, the dichotomy is imbalanced: no one ever went to jail because they operated an accredited school. No one ever lost a job because of a true claim of an accredited degree. No one was ever sued because they had credentials from an accredited school. It is a false equivalency.
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What John Bear really said!! - by jamesc1 - 03-06-2012, 08:51 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by DR ANATIDAE - 03-06-2012, 10:33 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by Really? - 03-06-2012, 11:47 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by ham - 03-06-2012, 11:13 PM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by Really? - 03-07-2012, 01:31 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by Ben Johnson - 03-07-2012, 02:01 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by Really? - 03-07-2012, 11:18 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by DR ANATIDAE - 03-10-2012, 09:22 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by Ben Johnson - 03-07-2012, 01:03 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by ham - 03-07-2012, 03:18 PM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by Really? - 03-08-2012, 12:29 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by ham - 03-08-2012, 03:03 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by Really? - 03-08-2012, 03:20 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by ham - 03-08-2012, 05:52 PM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by Really? - 03-08-2012, 10:07 PM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by ham - 03-09-2012, 05:34 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by Really? - 03-09-2012, 07:09 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by DR ANATIDAE - 03-09-2012, 07:53 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by Really? - 03-09-2012, 11:54 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by Ben Johnson - 03-09-2012, 11:33 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by Really? - 03-10-2012, 07:30 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by ham - 03-09-2012, 08:48 PM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by Really? - 03-10-2012, 09:58 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by DR ANATIDAE - 03-10-2012, 03:35 PM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by Really? - 03-10-2012, 08:56 PM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by Really? - 03-12-2012, 07:59 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by Ben Johnson - 03-13-2012, 11:34 PM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by ham - 03-14-2012, 08:09 PM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by jamesc1 - 03-14-2012, 06:19 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by jamesc1 - 03-23-2012, 05:37 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by bigfoot - 06-12-2012, 01:46 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by bigfoot - 06-13-2012, 02:01 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by bigfoot - 06-14-2012, 03:35 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by bigfoot - 01-07-2013, 01:24 PM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by jamesc1 - 01-08-2013, 08:13 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by bigfoot - 01-13-2013, 09:27 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by jamesc1 - 01-18-2013, 08:04 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by ham - 01-13-2013, 10:43 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by bigfoot - 01-13-2013, 04:45 PM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by ham - 01-14-2013, 03:57 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by bigfoot - 01-14-2013, 12:48 PM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by bigfoot - 01-19-2013, 02:44 PM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by jamesc1 - 01-20-2013, 06:52 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by jamesc1 - 01-29-2013, 07:44 AM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by bigfoot - 02-18-2013, 02:34 PM
RE: What John Bear really said!! - by bigfoot - 02-18-2013, 04:37 PM

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