Vinny123 and DETC doctorates

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Re: Acceptance of DETC PhD(Doctorates)

Postby Hungry Ghost on Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:53 pm

    nosborne48 wrote:Maaaan...I dunno...

    A Ph.D. is a pure research degree. It is the ticket of admission into the tight little world of academia. I suspect that the value of the degree lies largely in the relationships the graduate student forms with his adviser and department head and the professional connections he makes with other established scholars in his particular field.


Right. And on who those advisers were, on what the graduate's research specialty was, on what the university's reputation is in that particular specialty, and so on.

    Frankly, I wonder whether a DETC Ph.D. would be of any real use whatever. I just don't think that it would be taken seriously.


Personally, I don't think that any of the current DETC schools would be truly credible research doctoral schools. Maybe marginal or low-end at best.

The problem with the DETC doctoral programs ISN'T their DETC accreditation. That's almost totally irrelevant.

The problem with the DETC schools awarding research doctorates is that none of the current DETC lineup seems to host any visible research activity.

Compare the DETC doctoral programs with the doctoral programs that the New York Regents accredits.

For example, take the American Museum of Natural History's brand new (accredited in late 2009) PhD program in Comparative Biology. It probably doesn't have any graduates at this point either. But it's going to be highly credible, even internationally prestigious, right out of the gate.

Why? Not its accreditation. Most people haven't even heard of NY Regents accreditation.

What anchors the AMNH's place in the biological scheme of things is its 100+ year history of international class research prominence. Everyone on earth who is interested in the subject already knows what this thing is and what it does.

The idiot above wants us to believe he's an expert in...comparative biology...great...sounds like a fun-tah-steak conversation topic at the tavern tonight, eh?
It goes over my little head...I am stuck with the guy who claimed online he worked undercover for the Kremlin and made six figures as a nuclear midwife or whatever...

Scholars and professionals need to start encountering these schools' names in the news, technical literature and at conferences.

This idiot wants us to know how he spends week-ends...Ham goes to the strip club and the tavern...

Three pages of nonsense...
Again, the good old debate about 'prestige' dressed up in so many words by people who have no 'prestigious' degrees at all...
Recognized in academia?
Hell, UNISA required reassurances to the effect my big, B&M State university was NOT a degree mill...go figure...another institution asked me to document CARDIFF UNIVERSITY was accredited...please...a NACES evaluator told me he never heard of that big, state, B&M university...another evaluator mixed it up with another with a similar name...