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In Defense of the Liberal Arts - Don Dresden - 12-17-2010 Quote:In Defense of the Liberal Arts RE: In Defense of the Liberal Arts - ham - 12-17-2010 Quote:or how civilization was lost in fifth-century Rome and 1930s Germany. Oh really? ![]() Quote:During the 1960s and 1970s, committed liberals thought we could short-circuit the process of liberal education by creating advocacy classes with the suffix "studies." Black studies, Chicano studies, community studies, environmental studies, leisure studies, peace studies, woman's studies and hundreds more were designed to turn out more socially responsible youths. Instead, universities too often graduated zealous advocates who lacked the broadly educated means to achieve their predetermined politicized ends. That definitely isn't 1930s Germany, is it? ![]() Quote:A growing mass below lacks understanding of the present complexity and the basic skills to question what they are told. As always... Remember championing democracy & human rights in the company of Czarist Russia first, and Stalinist USSR later? You really had them believe it. ![]() The problem is: no literature or author that cannot be prostituted to the cookie-cutter and instant needs of the gigantic fad machine that is the corrupt and inept contemporary political machine (you have task forces investigating "hate" online, but nobody ever knew about the trillionaire frauds and Ponzi schemes that ruined millions ) is really needed. All you need are shoddy knee-jerkers about 1930s Germany to explain why the present system is still worth it after all. What this humanities buff doesn't know is that from 1918 to 1933, Germany was under the rule of a democratic elite of socialists and liberals. Even the famed articles allowing censorship were planted in the Weimar's constitution by those very same democrats who had evicted the imperial government at the allies' behest. This history buff doesn't know that the first step Himmler, Heydrich and other brand managers of terror moved were in the basements of the extensive and fool-proof surveillance apparatus of the democratic Weimar Republic. I remember reading about Himmler's surprise discovering they had the capacity to monitor, record and file every phone call. They even had semi-automated systems to file and retrieve dossiers about dissidents. No surprise at all, after having in power such people as socialist Noske (The hangman...he said that was a job someone had to do, too) spent so many years orchestrating public repression pro domo of a variety of dissidents, including bloody struggle between the heads of the social-communist hydra. Why did democratic and eminently social-democratic Weimar usher in Nazism is something historians still muse about, but incompetence and corruption are a good starting point. The rest are just knee-jerkers from political hacks trying to define 1930s Germany as the twilight of reason, but communists and Bolsheviks as "possibly wrong but terribly romantic". RE: In Defense of the Liberal Arts - Winston Smith - 12-18-2010 Quote:During the 1960s and 1970s, committed liberals thought we could short-circuit the process of liberal education by creating advocacy classes with the suffix "studies." Black studies, Chicano studies, community studies, environmental studies, leisure studies, peace studies, woman's studies and hundreds more were designed to turn out more socially responsible youths. Instead, universities too often graduated zealous advocates who lacked the broadly educated means to achieve their predetermined politicized ends. They should combine all these special leftist political interest "studies" majors into one, called Too Stupid For A Real Major Studies. Seriously, do you ever run into someone with one of those "degrees" and not think "oh jeez, another socialist dumbass"? Schools should just stamp all such diplomas "Permanently Unemployable" to avoid any future fraud claims by the alleged students. RE: In Defense of the Liberal Arts - Dickie Billericay - 12-18-2010 RE: In Defense of the Liberal Arts - Virtual Bison - 12-18-2010 Its an inherent danger that when society loses it training grounds for rational thinkers, society as a whole suffers. Nazi Germany burned books in large fires to surpress freedom of though. Stalin declaired war on free thought. In the US today we too are seeing academic freedom under assult. Ironcially this is being done under the banner of freedom by such academo-fascists as George Gollin who argued that he was exercising his own freedom by putting up a page on his publically financed website which aimed to persecute institutions of higher learning which did not conform to his own ideals And there are more and more restrictions on freedom. I believe that the elitists will not rest until they create a New World Order devoid of free thought. RE: In Defense of the Liberal Arts - ham - 12-18-2010 (12-18-2010, 02:13 PM)Virtual Bison Wrote: Its an inherent danger that when society loses it training grounds for rational thinkers, society as a whole suffers. Nazi Germany burned books in large fires to surpress freedom of though. Stalin declaired war on free thought. In the US today we too are seeing academic freedom under assult. Ironcially this is being done under the banner of freedom by such academo-fascists as George Gollin who argued that he was exercising his own freedom by putting up a page on his publically financed website which aimed to persecute institutions of higher learning which did not conform to his own ideals Well, the NSDAP burned books, but allied commissions all over Europe did just that, too...and that's considered next to heavenly behaviour...Gyorgy Lukacs belonged to a group a Marxist maximalists who orchestrated mass book burnings after the war, but you get tons of literature on him as one of the heavyweights of Marxism (=the right idea to espouse at the next caviar party). Slavoj Zizek, another philosopher who gets study groups in his name, publicly and relentlessly advocates the whitewashing of Leninism and its reinstatement upon the golden throne of great historical idea. |