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DEGREE MILLS - DR ANATIDAE - 09-05-2007
I've just raised the point about Degree Mills - at the now revitalised Degreeboard - and felt it worth raising here.
In the Ezell and Bear book on Diploma Mills they missed an ideal opportunity to slate the world's most serious mills, such as -
http://www.instantdegrees.com
http://www.degrees-and-diplomas.com
http://www.universityofdublin.org
http://www.degreexpress.eu/?degree+adwords2
http://www.speedydegrees.com/sitemap.asp
http://www.degrees-for-sale.com
http://www.customdegrees.com
http://www.affordabledegrees.com
http://www.degreexpress.eu
Why they chose to ignore the above (and there are lots more) and pursue their vendetta against private universities raises serious questions about the motives behind the book.
RE: DEGREE MILLS - Whatever - 09-09-2007
DR ANATIDAE Wrote:I've just raised the point about Degree Mills - at the now revitalised Degreeboard - and felt it worth raising here.
In the Ezell and Bear book on Diploma Mills they missed an ideal opportunity to slate the world's most serious mills, such as -
http://www.instantdegrees.com
http://www.degrees-and-diplomas.com
http://www.universityofdublin.org
http://www.degreexpress.eu/?degree+adwords2
http://www.speedydegrees.com/sitemap.asp
http://www.degrees-for-sale.com
http://www.customdegrees.com
http://www.affordabledegrees.com
http://www.degreexpress.eu
Why they chose to ignore the above (and there are lots more) and pursue their vendetta against private universities raises serious questions about the motives behind the book.
Wouldn't this also raise some serious questions about (selective) law enforcement?
RE: DEGREE MILLS - Randall Flagg - 09-09-2007
Yes it would. But then again, Bear has always been selective as to what he could support or denounce. If he did it, he supported it, especially the money he made. If he had no financial interest in a school it was much easier for him to dislike it.
Hell, Bear liked L.I.A.R. enough to sell it and then take payments from the new owner. He got $30 every time the new owner sold a milled degree. I wonder what being paid off by a degree mill owner is called? Maybe creative financing?
RE: DEGREE MILLS - Randall Flagg - 09-09-2007
The Alternative Guide to College Degrees & Non-Traditional Higher Education
(1980, New York, Stonesong Press) page-162
London Institute for Applied Research:
"....After the demise of the London Institute, crudely printed L.I.A.R. certificates have been offered for sale from an address in Holland. There is NO CONNECTION with the original."
--John Bear, Ph.D.
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Bonus Report: Diploma Mills of the World
by John Bear, Ph.D. (1982, Calfornia, Mendocino Book Company)
Page-18
London Institute for Applied Research
"The present author (one of the original group) assisted in selling the L.I.A.R. business to a gentleman in Holland, who carries it on for personal gain. I have been unable to stop him from using my name on the diplomas. He says he will send me $30 for each one he sells-money I will GLADLY accept and donate to good charities."
--John Bear, Ph.D.
One story for 1980, another in 1982. I guess things do change with time, and the truth seems to be the victim.
RE: DEGREE MILLS - DR ANATIDAE - 09-10-2007
[quote======
London Institute for Applied Research
"The present author (one of the original group) assisted in selling the L.I.A.R. business to a gentleman in Holland, who carries it on for personal gain. I have been unable to stop him from using my name on the diplomas. He says he will send me $30 for each one he sells-money I will GLADLY accept and donate to good charities."
--John Bear, Ph.D. [/quote]
YEAH RIGHT!
RE: DEGREE MILLS - Randall Flagg - 09-11-2007
DR ANATIDAE Wrote:[quote======
London Institute for Applied Research
"The present author (one of the original group) assisted in selling the L.I.A.R. business to a gentleman in Holland, who carries it on for personal gain. I have been unable to stop him from using my name on the diplomas. He says he will send me $30 for each one he sells-money I will GLADLY accept and donate to good charities."
--John Bear, Ph.D.
YEAH RIGHT!
[/quote]
Surely you don't think our good friend JB would slip....hmmmm, maybe about $25 in his pockets and give $5 to that wonderful charity?
You know what?? so do I. I figure the old boy kept much and gave little. Maybe he likes those $150 bottles of wine also. And you know what they say, "Charity begins at home."
RE: DEGREE MILLS - Student - 11-27-2007
DR ANATIDAE Wrote:I've just raised the point about Degree Mills - at the now revitalised Degreeboard - and felt it worth raising here.
In the Ezell and Bear book on Diploma Mills they missed an ideal opportunity to slate the world's most serious mills, such as -
http://www.instantdegrees.com
http://www.degrees-and-diplomas.com
http://www.universityofdublin.org
http://www.degreexpress.eu/?degree+adwords2
http://www.speedydegrees.com/sitemap.asp
http://www.degrees-for-sale.com
http://www.customdegrees.com
http://www.affordabledegrees.com
http://www.degreexpress.eu
Why they chose to ignore the above (and there are lots more) and pursue their vendetta against private universities raises serious questions about the motives behind the book.
Maybe because these are obvious diploma mills and what they went after is the not so obvious degree mills that actually disguise and more conning?
I never read their book, sounds like you did.
Did they claim that their book was a listing of all diploma and degree mills?
RE: DEGREE MILLS - ham - 11-28-2007
Quote:Did they claim that their book was a listing of all diploma and degree mills?
are all ravens truly black?
RE: DEGREE MILLS - DR ANATIDAE - 11-28-2007
Student Wrote:DR ANATIDAE Wrote:I've just raised the point about Degree Mills - at the now revitalised Degreeboard - and felt it worth raising here.
In the Ezell and Bear book on Diploma Mills they missed an ideal opportunity to slate the world's most serious mills, such as -
http://www.instantdegrees.com
http://www.degrees-and-diplomas.com
http://www.universityofdublin.org
http://www.degreexpress.eu/?degree+adwords2
http://www.speedydegrees.com/sitemap.asp
http://www.degrees-for-sale.com
http://www.customdegrees.com
http://www.affordabledegrees.com
http://www.degreexpress.eu
Why they chose to ignore the above (and there are lots more) and pursue their vendetta against private universities raises serious questions about the motives behind the book.
Maybe because these are obvious diploma mills and what they went after is the not so obvious degree mills that actually disguise and more conning?
I never read their book, sounds like you did.
Did they claim that their book was a listing of all diploma and degree mills?
Crap! They chose to ignore them (and my list is only a brief one) because of their incompetence. Their book was in fact an extremely poorly researched piece of drivel that was of no use whatsoever to education, or to the protection of society.
RE: DEGREE MILLS - Student - 11-28-2007
As mentioned before I never read the book.
Is it posible they simply didn't knew about this outfits or more than that maybe there was some kind legal issue, lawsuit or pending legal action?
At this time I'm simply guessing.
Dr. Bear state a few times about some entities that he left them alone pending their request or more than that pending posible legal action if my memory serves me well.