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Nosborne jousts with Bear over 2-year J.D. program - Little Arminius - 06-22-2008
Nosborne, an attorney in New Mexico, informed Bear that law school simply can't be compressed into a 2-year program. Bear, a pole dancing aficionado from Northern California, seems to believe otherwise.
2-year J.D. thread at DD
Pole Dancing school in NoCal
RE: Nosborne jousts with Bear over 2-year J.D. program - Little Arminius - 06-22-2008
I need to make a slight correction:
Bear is involved with circle dancing, not pole dancing.
Bay Area circle dance website
RE: Nosborne jousts with Bear over 2-year J.D. program - Ben Johnson - 06-23-2008
I assume they are talking 2 years with 24 months of full time study as opposed to 3 years with 24 months of full time study. Why the hell not? TomAEto, TomAWto - some people are bored. There are uncontroversial 3 year MD programs and even 2 year MD programs which are for PhDs in medically related fields.
I have wondered why the supply of law school spaces hasn't expanded to fill demand at state universities. It can't be any more expensive to teach than history or English. The law school I'm familiar with has big classes, all lectures, and one exam per year per class
Could lawyers through their vast influence in government actually be conspiring to limit competition? California with their licensing of lawyers from unaccredited and correspondence schools has the right answer but the fools put licensing of law schools back in the hands of lawyers. Unfortunately California's bar exam is too difficult. I haven't looked lately but something like 20% of Harvard Law School graduates fail and given that they turn down about 90% of their applicants something smells.
RE: Nosborne jousts with Bear over 2-year J.D. program - Little Arminius - 06-23-2008
The various state bar associations, let's use California as an example, perform a myriad of functions to protect the public and regulate the profession. They are a complex bureaucracy unto themselves. What we non-lawyers see is a mechanism to limit the number of attorneys and reduce competition among lawyers. Not suprisingly, the bar association sees it otherwise.
State Bar of California
I agree with Ben about the 2-year (24 month) J.D. It appears to have been carefully researched and planned by Northwestern University. Still, I'd like to hear some of the other DL experts weigh in. Wouldn't the comments of Steve Foerster, Bill Huffman, Bruce Tait and Abner be helpful before forming an opinion?
Here is another opinion (its link was provided at DD) that I found interesting and that will have to hold me over until Stalker Steve posts his comments.
http://www.elsblog.org/the_empirical_legal_studi/2008/06/nwu-laws-2-year.html
RE: Nosborne jousts with Bear over 2-year J.D. program - DR ANATIDAE - 06-24-2008
Little Arminius Wrote:The various state bar associations, let's use California as an example, perform a myriad of functions to protect the public and regulate the profession. They are a complex bureaucracy unto themselves. What we non-lawyers see is a mechanism to limit the number of attorneys and reduce competition among lawyers. Not suprisingly, the bar association sees it otherwise.
Bar exams always remind me of Frank Abagnale!
RE: Nosborne jousts with Bear over 2-year J.D. program - Don Dresden - 06-24-2008
DR ANATIDAE Wrote:Bar exams always remind me of Frank Abagnale!
So does Bear!
RE: Nosborne jousts with Bear over 2-year J.D. program - DR ANATIDAE - 06-25-2008
Don Dresden Wrote:DR ANATIDAE Wrote:Bar exams always remind me of Frank Abagnale!
So does Bear!
Very true!