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Fail: Online Class About Online Classes - Don Dresden - 02-06-2013 ![]() Fatimah Wirth Not to be confused with Fatima Blush. Not perfected yet? Quote:My first MOOC: Online class about how to create online classes failed miserably RE: Fail: Online Class About Online Classes - Martin Eisenstadt - 02-06-2013 (02-06-2013, 06:26 AM)Don Dresden Wrote: Not perfected yet? Is it just me or does it seem like a barely understandable third world accent is a prerequisite to a PhD these days? Has it occurred to anyone that these MOOC courses (or attempted courses) might have more value if the students actually could understand the profs? And perhaps we should work out the bugs before we put it online? Are there no squared away English-speaking Americans left in American higher ed? Quote:PhD 2005, Ohio University So she's been in the US at least since 1981, and most of it in the Northwest and Midwest. Somehow she managed to pick up a southern accent but still not lose the burka-babble singsong. Are they sure she isn't some sort of Al Qaeda plant assigned to destroy the US higher ed system? RE: Fail: Online Class About Online Classes - ham - 02-06-2013 Quote: So she's been in the US at least since 1981, and most of it in the Northwest and Midwest. Somehow she managed to pick up a southern accent but still not lose the burka-babble singsong. Are they sure she isn't some sort of Al Qaeda plant assigned to destroy the US higher ed system? Whiteys have been ushering third-worlders to be educated in the West with red carpet service since the XIX century (Indians, Arabs, Indochinese). The USA repaid a contentious debt to China after WWI with a shower of scholarships. Once it was fabulous honkies teaching savage Sambos, rabid Farooqs, meek Rajeevs and demode Chongs the wonders of the white world. Now it's multi-culti party time with Sambo, Abdool, Chong and company walking in on defeated ex-empires, whose point of pride are stock market crashes and legions of junk shares, to enrich them with their profound spirituality and high intellectual achievements. I took courses and a university certificate in a foreign language. The school's students were overwhelmingly Asian (Chinese, Japanese, Koreans...). Teachers reported how struggling these students were; in spite of wanting to get 6,8,10 hours a day of tuition, they were incapable of making the progress I was making with ONE hour. I guess the "intelligent oriental" stereotype -which I endorsed- belongs together with other nonsense. Politics, politics... ![]() HEE-HAW! RE: Fail: Online Class About Online Classes - Armando Ramos - 02-07-2013 (02-06-2013, 09:16 AM)Martin Eisenstadt Wrote: Is it just me or does it seem like a barely understandable third world accent is a prerequisite to a PhD these days? Back in the days of Wernher von Braun the foreign (or at least German) accent seemed to symbolize the notion that American science, technology and academia represented the finest in the world. Nobody cared where you came from, or even if you used to be a nazi, as long as you had it on the ball. Now the "on the ball" element plays well down the list to the libtard "diversity" scam. Look at us, we are soooooo open minded! Please send us more black gay handicapped marxists. Who cares if no real work gets done, it ain't like we're spending our own money. Symbolism over substance, we are the world, your tax dollars at work. (02-06-2013, 05:15 PM)ham Wrote: I guess the "intelligent oriental" stereotype -which I endorsed- belongs together with other nonsense. Don't forget the other part of that stereotype--tireless work ethic. Doesn't take some folks too long to get in the swing of the "lifestyles of the privileged class," which for some reason they imagine college professors to be. Success becomes a burden, because then they expect you to do it right all the time. Better to roll out a half-assed program you can put on your 30-page CV next to that NASA gig than to sweat the details and risk obscurity. RE: Fail: Online Class About Online Classes - Dickie Billericay - 02-11-2013 (02-06-2013, 09:16 AM)Martin Eisenstadt Wrote: Is it just me or does it seem like a barely understandable third world accent is a prerequisite to a PhD these days? Came across this at the website of Tulane University, alma mater of such notables as Andrew Breitbart, Neil Bush, Newt Gingrich and Lauren Hutton. From the names I'm guessing there is maybe one white American male in the entire business PhD program, depending of course on how you define "white." I imagine this is pretty representative of most major universities these days. Not that I begrudge any of these folks the fruits of their labor, but I think the answer to your question is "no, it's not just you." I wonder whether universities are deliberately excluding certain unfashionable groups of people, or whether there are just so few locals willing to go deep into hock for a degree that will never pay for itself that they have to make up the shortfall with naive foreigners who don't know any better? Quote:Finance Studentshttp://www.freeman.tulane.edu/programs/phd/current.php RE: Fail: Online Class About Online Classes - ham - 02-12-2013 Did you know fabulous progressive Wilson -in one of his switch&bait, stick&carrot routines- mandated picture IDs in the applications for civil service to appease radical Southern factions? Pics? You mean John Smith may just not look like my eponymous cousin AT ALL?! RE: Fail: Online Class About Online Classes - Don Dresden - 02-12-2013 An excerpt from Debbie Morrison's blog, wherein she declares "The MOOC Honeymoon Is Over." She describes the now infamous Fundamentals of Online Education course as a "calamity" and a "disaster." She totally nails the flaw present in so many online programs--they use the exciting modern technology to attempt to replicate all the boring, outdated aspects of traditional classroom teaching. Quote:It was not technical issues that derailed this course (which was a symptom), it is the underlying philosophy that many institutions still hold onto—that a MOOC is similar to, or the same as a course in a traditional face-to-face classroom, and it can be successful using the same structure, same content and similar instructional methods. MOOC courses offered through Cousera and other such platforms, often appear modified to ‘fit’ into a course experience on the Web, albeit with thousands of students.http://onlinelearninginsights.wordpress.com/2013/02/05/the-mooc-honeymoon-is-over-three-takeaways-from-the-coursera-calamity/ Although Fatimah seems to have single-handedly derailed the MOOC revolution, she might have done us all a favor by exposing how the retro-traditionalists of the higher ed cartel are attempting to co-opt the new technology to delay or avoid the change that likely will put most of them out of work. RE: Fail: Online Class About Online Classes - ham - 02-12-2013 Quote: She totally nails the flaw present in so many online programs--they use the exciting modern technology to attempt to replicate all the boring, outdated aspects of traditional classroom teaching. TMS dispenses with that hogwash, but TTC, which is a top-shelf provider of courses, seems to still cling to this stupid assumption. Like an investment advisor in three-pieces suit: must be honest, don't you think? Can't see he got a tie? |