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RE: Who Does This Describe? - Ben Johnson - 06-21-2008

So did Gollin stand in the back row watch and make notes while 14 other people did the research? I guess we will never know.

Does anyone know of an accredited school where I can do a group project with 15 other students? I would also like my committee to be composed of several personal friends, none of whom have doctorates in my field of study. Kind of a combo Princeton/Union. Why not just charge a fee and pass 'em out?


RE: Who Does This Describe? - Armando Ramos - 06-21-2008

People who need to round up 15 day laborers usually head for the parking lot outside the local Home Depot.

Where do people go when they need to round up 15 "collaborators" to write their dissertation for them?


RE: Who Does This Describe? - Ben Johnson - 06-22-2008

Armando Ramos Wrote:Where do people go when they need to round up 15 "collaborators" to write their dissertation for them?

Princeton?


RE: Who Does This Describe? - ham - 06-22-2008

Ben Johnson Wrote:
Armando Ramos Wrote:Where do people go when they need to round up 15 "collaborators" to write their dissertation for them?

Princeton?

let's be straight.
AAA+ universities in no way are a guarantee of AAA+ intellectual production, much like a man riding a Porsche is no guarantee of financial affluence or driving skills: most likely he bought it on credit and most likely he's not Niki Lauda; people with a boat aren't Thor Heyerdahl, either [Heyerdahl became famous for his Kon-Tiki expedition, in which he sailed 4,300 miles (8,000 km) by raft from South America to the Tuamotu Islands.].
'Celebrity faculty' outperforms traditional faculty in terms of absence.
They are most likely busy whoring to secure grants, keeping up with the rat race in publishing and courting the favors of some politically tainted audience (which in turn helps with securing grants and publications ).
Most teaching is done by 'teaching assistants', especially at undergraduate levels, from start to finish.
AAA+ universities in no way mean no botched outcome.


RE: Who Does This Describe? - Ben Johnson - 06-22-2008

Schools like Princeton also have an obligation to ensure that the kids and grandkids of rich benefactors actually graduate. It's whoring on a higher plane.

Out in the world people think that a degree from an Ivy League school is the key to riches. Wrong. People who do well are already rich. They only way you advance in the class structure is with cash. The poor minority kid is groomed to shine the shoes of the Kennedys, not to be the Kennedys.

Gollin's family obviously didn't have tons of excess money because he's teaching undergrads at a state run school. I've done that without Ivy League and without a PhD. I guess there's the possibility that there is family money and he simply is a scew-up.


RE: Who Does This Describe? - Armando Ramos - 06-22-2008

His wife has a better job than he has. And I'll bet she didn't need any 15 friends to write her dissertation for her either.


RE: Who Does This Describe? - ham - 06-22-2008

Ben Johnson Wrote:Schools like Princeton also have an obligation to ensure that the kids and grandkids of rich benefactors actually graduate. It's whoring on a higher plane.

Out in the world people think that a degree from an Ivy League school is the key to riches. Wrong. People who do well are already rich. They only way you advance in the class structure is with cash. The poor minority kid is groomed to shine the shoes of the Kennedys, not to be the Kennedys.

Gollin's family obviously didn't have tons of excess money because he's teaching undergrads at a state run school. I've done that without Ivy League and without a PhD. I guess there's the possibility that there is family money and he simply is a scew-up.

Believe it or not, in my old days I had A+ academic references for LSE & Oxbridge [ I just was on friendly terms with professors who wrote references; I'm not a Nobel outcast ].
Well, I investigated the matter and found that Oxbridge typically require to pay double tuition (to the university body corporate and to the college you are attached to ), which was just nonsense because research means being busy in archives and/or reading documents, plus my research deals with nothing English, for which I might require Oxbridge archives.
Later I learnt about a thing called 'high table', which I remembered from my days in a private Catholic school run by nuns I was glad to be out of.
Short it seemed they wanted you to pay dearly for the scenery and the 'prestige'.
Therefore I went distance learning...much cheaper and effective. As i said, one cannot expect much from any teacher/tutor/supervisor, whether online or B&M...celebrity teachers have bigger fishes to fry than your little, unimportant self; bulk teachers are probably flooded with teaching and administrative deadlines; teaching assistants or 'chargés de cours' are just lame a$$ students like yourself, most of the time...
however
I at least know I'm not squandering my welfare or disability cheque.


RE: Who Does This Describe? - Ben Johnson - 06-22-2008

Damn I'm good looking. What's Gollin up to?


http://www.degreediscussion.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5684


RE: Who Does This Describe? - Brian Crawford - 06-23-2008

Albert?Hidel Wrote:
Herbert?Spencer Wrote:He signed off on his dissertation as the sole author, but now admits that in reality his effort was but 6.25% of a project in which he "collaborated" with 15 others.

As noted here, "In the physical and biological sciences, it's common for papers in journals to have multiple authors -- sometimes dozens of them..."?

However, "Graduate departments do not welcome collaborative dissertations, and the panel didn't suggest that they start doing so."

Perhaps Gollin just didn't get it. Judging from that lame "explanation," maybe he still doesn't get it.

As a public service, Collaboration for Physics Majors:

Collaboration in journal articles = okay
Collaboration on dissertations = not okay

Although, after reading all that bullshit about his really neat friends and his cool vacations I think the answer is a little simpler: He knew damn well he wasn't supposed to collaborate on his dissertation and did it anyway. He figured he'd be 27 years down the road before anybody even noticed.

You know Gollin is just sitting there, picking his nose, scratching his fat ass and saying "Yeah, I collaborated, and so fucking what? Nobody took back MLK's degree for plagiarism and they aren't going to take back mine either."

Has anybody written to Princeton yet? I bet George has. "Some little pricks are going to be writing in, telling you a bunch of lies about me! My dissertation isn't bogus. My wife doesn't sell mutant pigs. My daughter isn't a lesbian. Diploma mill lies, I tell you, lies! Anybody who writes in, give me their names and addresses and I'll turn 'em over to the feds!"

Everyone should write/email Princeton University exposing this CHEA commissioner for the academic fraud that he is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Looks like time to contact the media to me.