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If you are, like myself a person who values civil liberties and individual freedom you are probably concerned about the errosion of our constitutional liberties. And Academic Freedom is just the tip of the iceberg.

Now I ranted for years about how we have idiots like that one Professor Asshole from University of Illinois and this ding-dong from Oregon trying to make it illegal to "use" certain University Degrees. Well I am not taking this crap sitting down.

And I finally found a group who agrees with me.

Cato Institute is a libertarian think tank which is fighting our fight! They are outspoken about the hypocracy and fraud concerning accreditation in higher learning.

And thats just the beginning. This group is truely a bastion of liberty in a sea of oppression.

They are not right or left but they are simply for Freedom. Check this group out. And if it really interests you, become a supporter like I am. Smile
Regional Accreditors certainly are fraudulent.

It has been said many times that, despite their claims, they do not even examine the quality of education when assessing a school, focusing their review on things like financial stability and employment policies.

In fact, in general, accreditors rarely bother investigating anything for themselves, relying on a school's own self-assessment report when evaluating.
To demonstrate how flaky and meaningless accreditation truly is I will do a google search for the phrase "easy degree".

Here's one of the adword results from a Regionally Accredited college:

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No Tests or Text Books
WASC Accredited College With No
Application Fees or Hidden Costs
www.TUIU.edu
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Oh wow!

No books. No tests. No Waiting. Wonder what that sounds like.

Clicking on the link it brought me to this page: http://learnmore.tuiu.edu/accredited_onl...agod7W_5bA

Their biggest selling point seems to be that there are no books, no tests, no waiting, and that it's pretty cheap.

Notice how they also felt the need to put a bullet point for "trustworthy institution". Big Grin
Here's a Regionally Accredited college where one can obtain an advanced degree in under three hours on a single easy test:

http://www.dltruth.com/showthread.php?tid=720

The State of New Jersey also hands out credentials based on a single easy test:

http://www.dltruth.com/showthread.php?tid=868

So is an accredited college degree worth anything? No, most certainly not. Accreditation does not examine or guarantee quality. The idea that accreditation gives a degree any value is a deception and a lie.

Only the reputation and quality of a school gives its degrees any value.
RespectableGent Wrote:To demonstrate how flaky and meaningless accreditation truly is I will do a google search for the phrase "easy degree".

Here's one of the adwords results from a regionally accredited college:

##################
No Tests or Text Books
WASC Accredited College With No
Application Fees or Hidden Costs
www.TUIU.edu
##################

Oh wow!

No books. No tests. No Waiting. Wonder what that sounds like.

Clicking on the link it brought me to this page: http://learnmore.tuiu.edu/accredited_onl...agod7W_5bA

Their biggest selling point seems to be that there are no books, no tests, no waiting, and that it's pretty cheap.

Notice how they also felt the need to put a bullet point for "trustworthy institution". Big Grin

I looked into this. Its actually is accredited and Bill Huffman and his goons did not do a hatchet job at their wikipedia article.

The self-proclaimed experts who run this whole accrditation mafia are willing to let a school like this get a clean bill of health yet will slap the"diploma mill" label on any other school which is not accredited, even if it takes actual work to complete a degree.
Actually, this might actually be a legitimate school posing as a diploma mill to lure in students. Its not unheard of.

University of Phoenix was advertizing itself as giving out credits for life experience, something an accredited school is not supposed to be doing. In fact many schools make all kinds of claims of being easy when they require a great deal of work.
Well, that would depend on what is meant by "legitimate". If you mean that it's not a place where one can obtain a degree in under three hours, then sure, it passes.

Both TUI and UoP operate by having the student write a short paper after they watch their course video clips. I actually think TUI is just a UoP copycat.

There really aren't any books or tests at UoP, either.

People log in to the website once a week, watch their little video clip, and write a monthly journal entry or essay of what they learned. It's a school for working adults. It's a school for the average man who is above the need for frivolous things like "reading books," and "taking tests".

See, at a school for working adults students can attend school for 30 minutes a week, and graduate in six to nine months, record time.
Apparently these no-book no-test "working adult schools" receive the the same accreditation equivalency as traditional schools where the course load is 4 years of fulltime study, where students satisfy a substantial curriculum of 12 class hours a week, with extensive homework, papers, test taking, book reading, and time invested at home.

Excelsior College, the scam school where one can obtain a college degree in under three hours by taking a single easy test, also receives the same accreditation as traditional schools.

The State of New Jersey scams the shit out of tens of thousands of its own citizens with their single easy test diplomas, yet their schools remain fully accredited.

Walden University was operating for a time where students could graduate by taking only four courses and graduate in a few months time, yet accreditors always told us that a Walden degree is equivalent to any other brick and mortar university.

I'm not sure if they still do it, but in its early years Walden was even running short-paper dissertation-only PhD programs. They were literally awarding PhDs based on an essay.

Typical meaningless joke schools which are regularly accredited and endorsed.
RespectableGent Wrote:Apparently these no-book no-test "working adult schools" receive the the same accreditation equivalency as traditional schools where the course load is 4 years of fulltime study, where students satisfy a substantial curriculum of 12 class hours a week, with extensive homework, papers, test taking, book reading, and time invested at home.

Excelsior College, the scam school where one can obtain a college degree in under three hours by taking a single easy test, also receives the same accreditation as traditional schools.

The State of New Jersey scams the shit out of tens of thousands of its own citizens with their single easy test diplomas, yet their schools remain fully accredited.

Walden University was operating for a time where students could graduate by taking only four courses and graduate in a few months time, yet accreditors always told us that a Walden degree is equivalent to any other brick and mortar university.

I'm not sure if they still do it, but in its early years Walden was even running short-paper dissertation-only PhD programs. They were literally awarding PhDs based on an essay.

Typical meaningless joke schools which are regularly accredited and endorsed.

I guess I wasted my time at Kennedy-Western actually having to study when I could have went to Walden and got a "real" degree just by writing a bullshit essay!

Hey, do you recall those commercials for education connection with that hottie in her underware talking about going to college in her PJs and talking about not picking the wrong online school? I watched that and thought to myself, "yea she is definately smart enough to make it through a regionally accredited school."
Kennedy-Western likely would have gotten accredited if it weren't for all of the libeling and slandering going on at the US Senate.

Looking at other schools which are accreditated, the accreditation academic checklist seems to be:

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Are they selling degrees?

Yes - Fail
No - Pass
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