...and the bastard is telling us that under Bush things were not just all the same? PFFT! Hey, mr. conservative...is it relevant that Americans under 'Christian' Bush were torturing prisoners, running away from Iraq with billions of cash, private security consultants (Aaah! Thank god it's not socialism, eh?) holding pedo-parties with Iraqi minors, Cheney & Co showering their bankrollers with contracts paid with public money? What do ages old books written by divinely inspired semites tell you about that? Isn't that rolling the dice? What do you say? Ahhh, I see...Americans never ran away with money from Iraq...torture involved a few guys who had hurt themselves tripping downstairs...Cheney& co brought momentum to the industrial economy...and pedo-parties are an invention of Arab haters who took over the U.N...
ham Wrote:torture involved a few guys who had hurt themselves tripping downstairs...
They should be like Canada. We charge our soldiers with murder for killing dead guys.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/10052...mrau_video
OK they guy had a severed leg for maybe 20 minutes or more. They guy had just ate some 20mm rounds from a helicopter gunship. There was no body and no post-mortem and nobody saw the captain do it. They heard a couple shots and a lot of rumours.
Quote:When Kagan was dean of Harvard Law School, she presented a guest speaker who is known as the most activist judge in the world: Judge Aharon Barak, formerly president of the Israeli Supreme Court. The polar opposite of the U.S. Constitution, which states that "all legislative powers" are vested in the elected legislative body, Barak has written that a judge should "make" and "create" law, assume "a role in the legislative process," and give statutes "new meaning that suits new social needs."
Well, that is what lord Patrick Devlin said as well.
The idea that the justice system serves some higher, solomonic, impersonal norm and not the socio-economic fads of the moment is false.
Jefferson, Madison, Washington: all slaveholders...if they were here today, they'd probably rot in jail for hate crimes, being sodomized by inmates of color.
Quote:The contradiction between freedom and slavery also existed in some
of the statesman who designed the United States republic. George
Washington, “founding father,” Thomas Jefferson, “the architect of
democracy,” and James Madison, “father of the United States
Constitution and its first ten amendments, the Bill of Rights,” were
slaveholding aristocrats. In fact, Peter Kolchin maintains in his book,
American Slavery 1619-1877, “eight of the United States' first
twelve Presidents in office for forty-nine of the new nation's first
sixty-one years, were slaveholders.” Some of those presidents,
including Jefferson, Washington and Madison, were born into the
slaveholding aristocracy of Virginia
Pervert in one thing, pervert in many. Kagan first rewrote docs to defraud the Supreme Court, then lied about it. She has no conscience about any of her other immoral conduct, so why should she care about a little thing like fraud?
Quote:Busted! Kagan caught fudging her testimony
Nominee dupes U.S. Supreme Court on partial-birth abortion, denies role
Posted: July 26, 2010
9:10 pm Eastern
By Drew Zahn
Dozens of pro-life organizations are asking Congress for a probe into testimony made by Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan, suggesting that she may have lied to senators during her confirmation hearings.
A letter created by Americans United for Life Action and signed by at least 30 state, national and legal organizations asks for "an investigation into discrepancies between Kagan's testimony before Congress and written documentation of her undue influence on medical organizations while advising President William J. Clinton on partial-birth abortion legislation."
The letter cites memos authored by Kagan and released by the Clinton presidential library prior to the confirmation hearings.
In advising President Clinton on his veto of a partial-birth abortion ban in 1997, Kagan issued a memo to Clinton citing a key American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists statement as "the most reliable opinion" on the medical necessity of partial-birth abortion. That same statement was relied upon by both the president and the Supreme Court in justifying opposition to the partial-birth abortion ban.
When asked during her confirmation hearings about any possible, undue influence over the content of the organization statement, Kagan testified that "there was no way in which I would have or could have intervened with (the College) to get it to change its medical views on the question."
Far from not "intervening," however, the released memos and other evidence show Kagan directly rewrote a critical portion of the organization statement to contradict the organization's expert panel and shape the organization findings – and ultimately, the U.S. Supreme Court's rulings – to match the president's proabortion politics.
In a June 22, 1996, memo, Kagan admitted that her meeting with the organization was "something of a revelation," for she learned that "in the vast majority of cases, selection of the partial-birth procedure is not necessary to avert serious adverse consequences to a woman's health."
In a Dec. 14 memo of that year, Kagan summarized the official organization report released in October as a "disaster," for it stated that "a select panel convened by (the College) could identify no circumstances under which this procedure would be the only option to save the life or preserve the health of the woman," a resounding blow to the president's position.
But a handwritten note by Kagan, published by Americans United for Life Action in a 54-page ethics report on the controversy, drafts a proposed amendment to the organization statement that would be more palatable to the president, adding the sentence: "A [partial-birth abortion], however, may be the best or most appropriate procedure in a particular circumstance to save the life or preserve the health of a woman, and a doctor should be allowed to make this determination."
Court testimony later revealed that the organization executive board, without consulting the experts who crafted the original statement, inserted the amendment into the final statement almost word for word.
Indeed, in her Senate testimony on June 30, 2010, Kagan admitted writing the amendment in an exchange with Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah.
But when Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., asked her if the amendment influenced or changed the organization's position, she responded, "My only dealings with (the College) were about talking with them about how to ensure that their statement expressed their views."
To the 30 or so pro-life groups seeking an investigation, however, Kagan's defense doesn't fit the facts.
"We are deeply concerned about Elena Kagan's conflicting testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee," Americans United for Life Action President Charmaine Yoest told LifeNews.com. "There are serious discrepancies between her statements to Senator Hatch and the documented evidence of her actions in December 1996."
Kagan's defense also elicited the criticism of several news sites and commentators.
"By reframing (the College's) judgments, she altered their political effect as surely as if she had changed them," writes William Saletan in Slate, who also summarized Kagan's defense as "bogus."
"Kagan didn't just 'clarify' (the College's) position," he writes. "She changed its emphasis. If a Bush aide had done something like this during the stem-cell debate, progressive blogs would have screamed bloody murder."
The Americans United for Life Action ethics report also cites a June 1, 1997, White House email in which Kagan wrestles with a similar finding by the American Medical Association, which issued a policy stating no situations had been found where a partial-birth abortion would be medically necessary.
Kagan's email states that she had come from a meeting that focused on "whether the AMA policy can be reversed" and concluded, "We agreed to do a bit of thinking about whether we … could contribute to that effort."
According to Americans United for Life Action, the AMA and American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists incidents reflect "a pattern of behavior" from Kagan that has had far-reaching effects.
In fact, in 2000, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down Nebraska's ban on partial-birth abortion, citing as part of its argument a report from "a select panel" of the College declaring the procedure "may be the best or most appropriate procedure … to save the life or preserve the health of a woman."
But that phrase, Americans United for Life Action and other commentators point out, wasn't written by a "select panel" of physicians and researchers, but rather by Kagan.
Quote:Papers prepped to disbar Elena Kagan
'She should not be a justice when she's defrauded the Supreme Court'
Posted: July 27, 2010
9:38 pm Eastern
By Drew Zahn
One of Washington D.C.'s most feared and fearless corruption watchers has told WND he intends to file an ethics complaint to have Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan disbarred from practicing before the court she aspires to join – and possibly subjected to criminal prosecution – for her role in an escalating controversy over partial-birth abortion.
Larry Klayman, founder of Judicial Watch and Freedom Watch USA, is bringing the complaint, alleging Kagan altered an official scientific report used as evidence by the Supreme Court to persuade the justices to overturn bans on partial-birth abortion.
As WND reported, dozens of pro-life organizations are already asking the Senate to investigate Kagan's 1997 amendment to an American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists report, which was then used by the Supreme Court as justification for overturning Nebraska's partial-birth abortion ban in 2000.
In her confirmation hearings, Kagan defended the amendment, saying, "My only dealings with ACOG were about talking with them about how to ensure that their statement expressed their views."
Several analyses have concluded, however, that Kagan's amendment dramatically changed the meaning of the ACOG statement, and court records show the statement was passed off on the Supreme Court as official scientific opinion, even though the ACOG's panel of scientists never approved Kagan's wording.
Klayman told WND he believes Kagan's behind-the-scenes work constitutes "conspiracy to defraud the Supreme Court," and he intends to take the evidence that has been compiled by the pro-life groups to file a complaint before the clerk's office of the U.S. Supreme Court, seeking to have Kagan disbarred as a practicing lawyer in front of the Supreme Court.
But Klayman said he isn't stopping there.
"Then I'm going to ask the Supreme Court to refer the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation and possibly prosecution of obstruction of justice," he told WND, "because it was reasonably foreseeable that her altering that [ACOG] report would ultimately be used in court proceedings, including but not limited to the Supreme Court."
Klayman concludes, "Elena Kagan should not be a justice of the Supreme Court when she's defrauded the Supreme Court. In fact, she shouldn't even be allowed to practice in front of the Supreme Court under these circumstances."
...Now, Klayman says, even if Kagan is confirmed by a vote in the Senate, he doesn't plan on giving up the fight.
"If she is ultimately confirmed – and we can hope that she will not be – then we will go to phase two, which will be impeachment," Klayman told WND.
Working to stop Kagan's nomination
While the pro-life groups are petitioning U.S. senators to investigate Kagan's amendment and Klayman is turning to the Department of Justice, other organizations are drafting efforts to pressure the Senate into rejecting Kagan's nomination outright.
...According to [WND editor Joseph] Farah, Kagan disqualified herself from serving on the Supreme Court with her statement under oath that she has no view of "natural rights."
"In all my years of observing Washington, I don't think I've ever been more stunned and disappointed by the testimony of a Supreme Court nominee than I was with Elena Kagan," said Farah. "This is someone, who, from her own testimony, doesn't believe in the Declaration of Independence, which we just celebrated and commemorated for the 234th time in our nation's history. This is someone who claims she doesn't have a view about 'natural rights' – those that real Americans believe are unalienable and God-given."
...The statements by Kagan came in an exchange with Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla. Farah said most of the press failed to cover her responses, which he deemed as newsworthy as any she made during the hearings:
Coburn: Do you believe it is a fundamental, pre-existing right to have an arm to defend yourself?
Kagan: Senator Coburn, I very much appreciate how deeply important the right to bear arms is to millions and millions of Americans. And I accept Heller, which made clear that the Second Amendment conferred that right upon individuals, and not simply collectively.
Coburn: I'm asking you, Elena Kagan, do you personally believe there is a fundamental right in this area? Do you agree with Blackstone [in] the natural right of resistance and self-preservation, the right of having and using arms for self-preservation and defense? He didn't say that was a constitutional right. He said that's a natural right. And what I'm asking you is, do you agree with that?
Kagan: Senator Coburn, to be honest with you, I don't have a view of what are natural rights, independent of the Constitution. And my job as a justice will be to enforce and defend the Constitution and the laws of the United States.
Coburn: So you wouldn't embrace what the Declaration of Independence says, that we have certain God-given, inalienable rights that aren't given in the Constitution that are ours, ours alone, and that a government doesn't give those to us?
Kagan: Senator Coburn, I believe that the Constitution is an extraordinary document, and I'm not saying I do not believe that there are rights pre-existing the Constitution and the laws. But my job as a justice is to enforce the Constitution and the laws.
Coburn: Well, I understand that. I'm not talking about as a justice. I'm talking about Elena Kagan. What do you believe? Are there inalienable rights for us? Do you believe that?
Kagan: Senator Coburn, I think that the question of what I believe as to what people's rights are outside the Constitution and the laws, that you should not want me to act in any way on the basis of such a belief.
Coburn: I would want you to always act on the basis of the belief of what our Declaration of Independence says.
Kagan: I think you should want me to act on the basis of law. And that is what I have upheld to do, if I'm fortunate enough to be confirmed, is to act on the basis of law, which is the Constitution and the statutes of the United States.
"This woman apparently thinks our rights descend from our Constitution, which is crazy," said Farah. "The Constitution is there to protect our unalienable, God-given human rights – not to define our rights or to invent them."
The campaign to deny Kagan confirmation in the Senate, however, began long before the hearings.
"This woman, as president of her university, banned the U.S. military from recruiting on campus," Farah reminds. "Just contemplate rewarding that kind of vehemently anti-American action with a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court. Elena Kagan must be stopped."
...Calling Kagan "an activist who wants to govern from the bench," Farah says there's a way to give senators a "spine transplant" and prepare them for the most contentious confirmation fight since Clarence Thomas.
"Kagan is a radical antimilitary and proabortion zealot," said Farah. "This selection by Barack Obama reveals once again his extremist agenda of leaving America undefended, elevating alternative lifestyles to sainthood and exterminating the most innocent human life with reckless abandon and persecuting anyone who tried to stand in the way. In a nutshell, that's who Elena Kagan is."
Holy shit! She perpetrated a fraud and lied to the Senate. How much jail time is that worth?