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I wonder if Gollin is pissed or if he sees this as building his "street cred" among the DI and DD crowd? He seems to have the admiration of Huffman, Bear, nosborne and Levicoff. Is that alone worth the hassle and expense of fighting this suit?

Little Arminius Wrote:I wonder if Gollin is pissed or if he sees this as building his "street cred" among the DI and DD crowd? He seems to have the admiration of Huffman, Bear, nosborne and Levicoff. Is that alone worth the hassle and expense of fighting this suit?

No doubt about it, Gollin is pissed out of his socialist mind. He thought he was golden, and that his crap didn't stink. Now the mirror has broken and his fantasy has come to an end.

And the timing couldn't be worse. Right on the heels of UI and his Conflict of Interest Officer wife dodging one very public shit storm, now Gollin has brought down another of what promises to be several more public and potentially expensive embarrassments to the university.

The clones are just whistling in the graveyard. This is nothing like the little skirmishes Klempner and Lefkowitz stumbled into. In the words of our erudite vice president, this is a BFD.

Bear's "lawsuit" was a small claims court action in Canada. Bear spins it like it was a great victory for him because he didn't have to pay any money, but that isn't the fact. Obviously somebody doesn't sue in small claims court if they are expecting to make a big score. Bear's publisher agreed to modify future editions of his book to remove the defamatory passages, which is all the plaintiff wanted in the first place. According to the cached version from Vancouver U's website:

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Lawsuit Settlement

Vancouver University versus Ten Speed Press (Berkely CA and Toronto ON)
Provincial Court, Vancouver, Canada

A settlement was negotiated and Vancouver University withdrew (13 Oct 20) its action re false identification / categorization.

In preliminary hearing, Ten Speed petitioned that (broader-defined) "defamation" is only within the jurisdiction of higher courts. Vancouver University agreed, but argued that "false identification or categorization" is a much narrower and specific matter, and within the jurisdiction of the lower court. Judge Gallagher agreed and ruled that the matter proceed to further hearing unless the parties meanwhile settle. Ten Speed subsequently made an offer of settlement, including confidentiality of terms. Vancouver University countered. Ten Speed agreed to the counter-offer, and the action was withdrawn - subject to performance of terms.

Terms of settlement confidential. See future bearable Ten Speed editions.

http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:u9d0...nspeed.htm

Lefkowitz got lucky because the guy who sued him was somebody's brother in law or something and didn't know what he was doing. That is not Thaddeus J. Culpepper, plaintiffs' attorney in this case. He used to work for McDonough, Holland & Allen up in NoCal, a very major firm with good political connections. And he wasn't in charge of sitting by the door either. He's got a fairly substantial google footprint for a guy only 8 years admitted. And you know that as a former Pitt d-back he likes to hit people. He isn't going to let anyone run over him.

But even assuming the Liberian defendants should manage to paper their way out of the action, so what? Who is left? Just Gollin and U of I. So a jury hears a litany of bad acts by the various Liberians, and who do they have left to pin it on? Dr. Ass Scratcher and his employer.

It's just like those personal injury cases where the old lady falls down in the shopping center parking lot. She sues the stores and the center owner, but she also sues the landscaper and the janitors and the guy who striped the parking lot. The stores and the center owner have money so they just pay and get dismissed, but the guy who striped the parking lot won't settle, says "WTF? I didn't do nothing. Did she trip over the 1/64th inch of epoxy I put there 10 years ago?" The jury sees only an old lady who got hurt and one defendant. They hang the full price on him, figuring he's got insurance so who cares. This is why smart defendants settle fast and get out of these things while the getting is good.

So if anything, having no Liberians at trial just means Gollin gets hit with the full load. And he's just egomaniac enough to sit there whining "I didn't do nothing" while the crap pours down on his bald head.

Plus there are others lining up to take a run at Gollin too, like the approach to O'Hare on Thanksgiving. He's going to be spending a lot of time talking to lawyers and trying to 'splain hisself. Good luck with that, Gollum. I'm sure if we were all as super smart as you we would understand why you aren't as big an asshole as you appear to be. Maybe you'll get lucky and there will be some physics majors on the jury in downtown LA.

Gollin will argue "freedom of speech," but calling SLSM a diploma mill, fake, or bogus, without an appropriate review of its programs is clearly libel and slander.

It's one thing for a former student to call his institution a "diploma mill," having experienced the courses/material first hand. But someone to call an institution a "diploma mill" without any review what-so-ever is clearly libel - not that Gollin would have the proper academic background to review a medical school anyway. Gollin has also publicly mentioned that he is on a mission to put SLSM out of business, which won't look good to any court.

I encourage the proprietors of St. Lukes to sue George Gollin personally and University of Illinois directly. The ODA also needs to be sued for placing institutions on a diploma mill list without review of its programs.

One of those idiots on that board actually spoke about starting a "Mill Busters defense fund."

Proof that a fool and his money are soon parted.

RespectableGent Wrote:I encourage the proprietors of St. Lukes to sue George Gollin personally and University of Illinois directly. The ODA also needs to be sued for placing institutions on a diploma mill list without review of its programs.

I think a good outcome would be to allow the suit to be dropped as long as Gollin publically appologizes for telling lies. He never will of course but I woud go out and drink a toast if he did.


I hope there will be enough outrage among the tax payers in Illinois who are financing this garbage, but something tells me this is not going to happen.

Virtual Bison Wrote:I hope there will be enough outrage among the tax payers in Illinois who are financing this garbage...

You are right VB, that was exactly my point above about Kaler. She was one of the few UofI admins to put the interests of the university and Illinois taxpayers above her own self-aggrandizement. She immediately recognized that Gollum was a loose cannon whose sleazy little "hobby" eventually was going to land the university in hot water. The clowns who ignored her are now drawing pensions and the people of Illinois will be paying through the nose yet again for their management blunders.

Gollum and his ilk seem to think a university is just a big, taxpayer-financed Romper Room, where everyone gets paid to do whatever makes them feel good and promotes their self esteem. Illinois taxpayers need to demand that the university fulfill its obligations to the taxpayers first, by making the admins run a squared away higher education operation and not a nursery school for bored 56-year old socialist numbnuts. Item 1 on the agenda should be to minimize litigation risk by firing Gollum and hiring a real physics professor.

Complaint Wrote:48. ...They saw the computers, new microscopes, new library books, Internet service, SLSOM's online curriculum, and new classroom tables and chairs. The paint on each wall was fresh. ...The reporters saw that all the rooms and laboratories were wired for electricity and all bathrooms were plumbed. Many commented that the facilities were much better than A. M. Dogliotti's facilities (the University of Liberia's medical school), which did not have microscopes or other laboratory equipment at all.

These lame ass "mill busters" like Huffman don't have a clue what goes on in third world countries. The basics that people take for granted in the US don't even exist there. There seems to be this attitude among them that it can' be a "real" school because it doesn't have a gym, a student union, a football stadium, co-ed dorms with condom machines, a multi-billion dollar endowment and all the other cool things you need to have at a western-style taxpayer funded universities.

Dr. Dolphin proudly (and justifiably so) asserts his facility had electrical wiring and plumbed bathrooms. Not much to brag about compared to some fancy pants private university or even your local JC, but an extraordinary accomplishment in a bottom tier third world country. It takes no small amount of effort to create such a facility, and as discussed in the complaint, damage and destruction from the civil war required repair and replacement several times over.

Under such difficult circumstances it seems surprising that any of his grads ever passed medical boards. That, in fact, 88% overall did demonstrates either that passing medical boards isn't quite as difficult as you might think or that SLSOM was doing an extraordinary job educating its students under the most dire conditions imaginable.

Some people might look at Dr. Dolphin's accomplishments and say, "Whoever did this showed great courage and made a tremendous sacrifice. What a great opportunity for our people."

Unfortunately, Liberia's criminal politicians looked at it and said, "Whoever did this must have money. What a great opportunity for a shakedown."

And for his trouble Dr. Dolphin not only got sentenced to hide-and-seek accreditation hell by his own countrymen, but called a criminal by some ignorant, self-promoting American hack too lazy or incompetent to verify the back fence gossip and hearsay he was fed by the Liberian shakedown team.

I see why Gollum hasn't posted on DD since this became public. Too busy promoting himself to feign even a perfunctory interest in humanity. How can this fool ever show his face in public again? CHEA ought to demand his resignation, UIUC ought to demand his resignation, and the Guggenheimers ought to ask for their book money back.

Up until now the only source of info on St. Luke was Gollum, or info planted in the press by Gollum. But the picture of St. Luke painted by the facts alleged in the complaint is completely different.

Considering that Gollum has demonstrated time and time again that he is utterly without credibility, I'm inclined to take the complaint as true.

Dolphin is getting shafted by the Liberians because he wouldn't pay the bribes they demanded, and Gollin has been helping them shaft him.

The only real issue is the same issue we have every time Gollin gets caught with his pants down in public: Is he just oblivious or did he knowingly lie? How many times has that question been asked before?

The guy claims to be a PhD, but expects people to believe he is ignorant of the facts and unaware of the circumstances? No, I don't think so. If he claimed only a third grade education and a GED would you believe him? No, I don't think so. Nobody is that oblivious.

The answer that best fits the facts alleged in the complaint is that George Gollin is a self-serving liar, an incompetent researcher, and a complete moral reprobate. Get this in front of a jury and Dr. Dolphin won't need to worry about plumbing and electricity at his med school because he will own the University of Illinois.

Dickie Billericay Wrote:The guy claims to be a PhD, but expects people to believe he is ignorant of the facts and unaware of the circumstances? No, I don't think so.

I'm no lawyer, but if the stuff alleged in the Complaint about Gollum is true, isn't that also criminal conduct? Shouldn't George Gollin be facing a criminal indictment for his role in this shakedown operation?

What is he going to say when some attorney general or federal prosecutor comes knocking on his door? "I'm a really smart physics PhD, and the world's foremost authority on accreditation. But I am so fresh and innocent and naive that I had no idea it was a shakedown."

Coming soon to a criminal courtroom near you: We the jury find the defendant, George Dana Gollin, guilty as charged!

WilliamW Wrote:Shouldn't George Gollin be facing a criminal indictment for his role in this shakedown operation?

Here's what Wikipedia says about extortion. (Wikipedia is a great source for researching criminal law because most of the editors are pedophiles with multiple arrests and criminal convictions, so they have first hand knowledge of the criminal justice system.)

Quote:Extortion, outwresting, or/and exaction is a criminal offense which occurs when a person unlawfully obtains either money, property or services from a person(s), entity, or institution, through coercion. Refraining from doing harm is sometimes euphemistically called protection. Extortion is commonly practiced by organized crime groups. The actual obtainment of money or property is not required to commit the offense. Making a threat of violence which refers to a requirement of a payment of money or property to halt future violence is sufficient to commit the offense. Exaction refers not only to extortion or the unlawful demanding and obtaining of something through force,[1] but additionally, in its formal definition, means the infliction of something such as pain and suffering or making somebody endure something unpleasant.[2]

In the United States, extortion may also be committed as a federal crime across a computer system, phone, by mail or in using any instrument of "interstate commerce." Extortion requires that the individual sent the message "willingly" and "knowingly" as elements of the crime. The message only has to be sent (but does not have to reach the intended recipient) to commit the crime of extortion.

Extortion is distinguished from robbery. In "strong arm" robbery, the offender takes goods from the victim with use of immediate force. In "robbery" goods are taken or an attempt is made to take the goods against the will of another--with or without force. A bank robbery or extortion of a bank can be committed by a letter handed by the criminal to the teller. In extortion, the victim is threatened to hand over goods, or else damage to their reputation or other harm or violence against them may occur. Under federal law extortion can be committed with or without the use of force and with or without the use of a weapon. A key difference is that extortion always involves a written or verbal threat whereas robbery can occur without any verbal or written threat (refer to U.S.C. 875 and U.S.C. 876).

...Neither extortion nor blackmail require a threat of a criminal act, such as violence, merely a threat used to elicit actions, money, or property from the object of the extortion. Such threats include the filing of reports (true or not) of criminal behavior to the police, revelation of damaging facts (such as pictures of the object of the extortion in a compromising position), etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extortion

I agree with you, WmW, the facts alleged in the complaint square up nicely with those required for a crime. Arguing lack of criminal intent would be laughable, because no one with any common sense would ever believe the "expert" who wrote a 91 page report on the subject didn't know exactly what was going on.

I'm sure the Illinois Attorney General and/or the US Attorney's Office would be in a better position to decide if the matter warrants prosecution.

East Central Illinois Regional Office
1776 E. Washington St.
Urbana, IL 61802
(217) 278-3366

Illinois Attorney General website: http://illinoisattorneygeneral.gov/index.html

United States Attorney's Office
Central District of Illinois
201 S. Vine St., Suite 226
Urbana, IL 61802
(217) 373-5875

US Attorney's Office, Central District of Illinois website:
http://www.justice.gov/usao/ilc/index.html