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Uncle Janko Wrote:It is indeed a triumph--for the vaingloriously semi-literate, the intellectually lazy, the fanatical pursuers of third-rate schools with scapegrace accreditation, the extorters of more money from the taxpayer or the employer on the basis of shabby postnominals unindicative of much learning, those too unconcerned about their clients' well-being to bother with internships of real rigour, those "doctors" too cowardly or too stupid to write dissertations, in short, placeholders, timeservers, moral fraudsters, and thieves of trust.

Better an honourable trucker than a dishonourable "professional needs met" un-professional.

Those of us with real degrees from first-string accredited schools which demanded real scholarship for our doctorates have indeed been cast down to the dust by this triumph of the mediocre and the cultish.

How will we bear it? We'll manage, somehow.
Real men don't need to get away with stuff. Real men work hard and achieve.
Doing good, doing well, raising hope and raising hell. Janko Shave.

vinny123 Wrote:Real men don't nag and scream when they don't get their way. Real men don't infantilize and patronize others, projecting their values and beliefs as to what is in their best interests. Real men are flexible and listen intently to the unique educational goals and needs of posters. Real men don't come across as superior to others and are able to maintain a receptive attitude to novel educational experiences (ie, DETC Psy.d Programs). Real men are cognizant when they have overstated their unrequested perspectives and know when to shut-up and back off. Real men Uncle, not infantile-like men.

Levicoff Wrote:Vinny, sweetheart, I usually don't bother responding to you, but I can't but feel that we're left with a simple bottom line here...

Notwithstanding that you call my Union Ph.D. a "Name It and Frame [It]" degree (which is a hoot since it comes directly from one of my book titles), even if we acknowledge your label, we're left with the simple truth that my doctorate is regionally accredited. Got it? Mine is RA, yours (if any) is not.

Which is why you and your credentials (whatever they may or may not be, since you continue to be secretive about them) will always be open to question.

And that is merely one of the reasons we laugh at you. But you are good for the entertainment, at least.

vinny123 Wrote:Levi sweetheat colon cowboy, there is no reason to be defensive. We know why you are responding to my posts because what I have stated has merit! No matter how you attempt to fend off my feedback regarding "Name it and frame it" degrees, there are legitimate questions relating to whether the content of these doctoral programs and dissertations were generally on par with the standard criteria and expectations for scholarly doctoral level work! The very fact that the Ohio Board of regents reviewed a number of these doctoral dissertations, perceived them as being below doctoral standards of performance resulting in your alma mater being placed on probation until they increased the standards and expectations for doctoral candidates. So yes your doctorate is RA but this does not discount the questions that continue to be generated about the actual criteria and quality of standards for granting a number of these degrees.

However, the quality of degrees such as yours would have never surfaced and become an issue IF you did not flaunt it in every post and used it to devalue and discredit other posters with whom you disagreed. This is especially so with posters who are seeking a DETC Psy.D degree resulting in your taking extremely disparaging positions against these individuals, deprecating their educational choices under the guise of being helpful. Just realize that as YOU are devaluing DETC doctoral programs without one iota of data as to the depth, comprehensiveness and standards for attaining these degrees as well as their level of acceptability and utilizability in the world of work and for professional purposes, YOU are also bringing the "Name it and frame it" doctorate into question as to its rigor and standards of excellence as a scholarly degree.

BTW homo boy, is it very cold in the tractor trailer cabin tonight?

Uncle Janko Wrote:If the whiners take such umbrage at our criticism, how will they handle criticism from their doctoral-level teachers?

Will they say that those criticisms don't "meet their needs"?

Do they simply expect no criticism?

Uncle Janko Wrote:Q.E.D. (This discussion has ended)

Holy shit!!! Uncle J may have completely lost it.

Angry Uncle J rants at DD

How I love these 'we' that online quacks love to (m)utter.
As I replied to one of them: 'we', who, exactly? You and the voices in your head?

Dennis Ruhl Wrote:I read the thread.  It is enlightening to know that the California psychologists did and DETC will review SCU and find it adequate but Levicoff and his Funny Uncle who know nothing about the school do not approve.  Levicoff has a degree in a made up field and Janko is a preacher.

I wonder what he preaches. It can't be the word of God. I can't believe that the Bible encourages anger, irony and sarcasm.......

Uncle Janko Wrote:Q.E.D. (This discussion has ended)

And may I add arrogant as well. As if he has any right in closing (i.e. try to close) the discussion. Funny how big egos some people have.

Psychology Today has a pretty accurate description for these two especially the Captain of the Eighteen Wheels:

So why do wisecrackers keep their bons mots coming at the risk of alienating others? Though they may not be aware of it, sarcasm is their means of indirectly expressing aggression toward others and insecurity about themselves. Wrapping their thoughts in a joke shields them from the vulnerability that comes with directly putting one's opinions out there. "Sarcastic people protect themselves by only letting the world see a superficial part of who they are," says Steven Stosny, a Washington, D.C.-based therapist and anger specialist. "They're very into impression management."

http://www.psychologytoday.com/rss/pto-2...00002.html

I just took a quick look at the thread in question and it appears that Vinny123 has refuted every Levicoff criticism and then some. I was wrong about Vinny123's ability to mix it up with the gang ... he has more than held his own.

How arrogant can Janko & The Trucker be?

Quote: Uncle Janko wrote:... the fanatical pursuers of third-rate schools with scapegrace accreditation, the extorters of more money from the taxpayer or the employer on the basis of shabby

Third rate schools with scapegrace accreditation? As Vinny pointed out isn't that pretty much the type of school Levicoff attended? For that matter, where did Janko obtain his degree(s)?

Quote:Steve Levicoff wrote:...  Real men earn RA degrees.
Whining babies get DETC degrees.

Quote:... even if we acknowledge your label, we're left with the simple truth that my doctorate is regionally accredited. Got it? Mine is RA, yours (if any) is not.

Who the hell does this guy think he is? Even though the U.S. Department of Education doesn't place RA accreditation over NA accreditation Levicoff sure seems to think it's appropriate. It's people like this and other alleged & self-proclaimed "experts" that make it difficult for DETC and other NA graduates to be put on an equal playing field. It's people like this that force CalCoast into court to prove their legitimacy (when apparently obtaining USDOE recognized accreditation isn't enough).

According to the Ohio Board of Regents most recent review everything was operating smoothly which is in stark contrast to the events that took place just a few years ago.

RA schools are not without their share of controversy (Phoenix, Capella, Northcentral, AIU, North Carolina Central, etc.) so I'm not entirely sure how one can feel justified in placing one type of accreditation over another.

Quote:It's people like this and other alleged & self-proclaimed "experts" that make it difficult for DETC and other NA graduates to be put on an equal playing field. It's people like this that force CalCoast into court to prove their legitimacy (when apparently obtaining USDOE recognized accreditation isn't enough).

Those clowns are only allowed to brag their nonsense as long as their overt or covert master puppeteers nod in agreement...
An historical example...
When Germany invaded Belgium, Belgian media had for some time attacked Germany in very strong terms.
Once the country was invaded, newspapers started to sing the praise of Germany.
Notably, an editorial by de Man, boss of no other than the socialist party, hailed the German victory as the most opportune treatment for the rotting and evil-doing Belgian society.
Later de Man took part in parlays (that went nowhere) to play second fiddle inside  an 'emergency' government' ruled by local fascists including Degrelle.
Ah...
meanwhile Degrelle had been summarily arrested (in spite of his MP status), detained, beaten up and deported but would re-enter the scene 'on the right side'.
After the war, coats would turn again.