DL Truth: Distance Learning Truth

There's been a lot said about me on this board. No biggie, but I haven't really been available to respond.

I would invite questions that people have on their minds. As long as the tone is civil, it would be my pleasure to respond.

Here's one to start with:

"Are you really 5'6" (or below)?"

No. I'm actually 5'11". I'm not sure where the short stuff comes from, but I think it had to do with that video I did at the Naval Post-Graduate School.

Oh, here's another:

"Did you really take a PhD from Union in 8 months?"

No, of course not. The actual time in program was about 7 years. I had a huge break in my program, but when I returned I was faced with an 8-month (two-terms) minimum. I took 13 because I needed to do a new dissertation (Project Demonstrating Excellence).

Oh, darn, here's another:

"What was up with MIGS? You sure shilled that, didn't you?"

Yes, I did. But I did it with full disclosure. (It was still a mistake.)

MIGS looked like it was going to use the model Touro University International went on to use, where the home campus provided cover to a unique (and largely unrelated) distance campus. (In fact, the CEU got MIGS included in their listing in the International Handbook of Universities, which is a source used to determine if a school is comparable to being accredited here in the U.S.) I was so enthused by the chance to finish my PhD that I didn't explore the workings critically. (This was true of many people involved with MIGS, including its President, Armando Arias, with whom I met regarding MIGS.) After working from the inside, it was clear that the people involved didn't know how to run a distance program. But the real problem was that they didn't register with the state of Florida. I implored them to do so, and they promised they would. But when they didn't, I alerted Florida authorities and severed my ties with them. They subsequently applied for licensure by the state, but failed. They closed soon after that. (I think the home campus in Mexico, the CEU, got cold feet.)

Anyway, if you'd like to know something else (besides the "have you quit beating your wife" questions), I'd be happy to answer them.

(08-26-2015, 10:52 AM)twodocdoug Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not sure where the short stuff comes from, but I think it had to do with that video I did at the Naval Post-Graduate School.

Was that one of Chip's productions?

Were you invited to join "The Gang"? If so, why did you decline?

(08-27-2015, 02:10 AM)twodocdoug Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-26-2015, 02:58 PM)Armando Ramos Wrote: [ -> ]Were you invited to join "The Gang"?? If so, why did you decline?

Great question. When a group of posters on the alt.education.distance usenet discussion group got dubbed "the Gang of Six" by some who didn't like what thew were saying, I wasn't active on that site, yet. I don't know if I would have made it a Gang of Seven, though.

At the time, I only knew John Bear because he'd been on my committee at Union. (No, I didn't know John before he joined my committee. He once mis-stated the number of years we'd known each other. I was never sure why that mattered to a few people.) I've only met one other poster from those boards...for lunch. Otherwise, I'm not really connected to them.

Not sure if you didn't understand the question or are just avoiding it. I wasn't asking about the original AED Gang of Six, I was asking about Goose Sainz's now not-so-secret retard kaffeeklatsch at DD that he cleverly dubbed "The Gang." That was why I included a link to the threads here revealing its existence. Want to try again?

(08-28-2015, 07:54 PM)twodocdoug Wrote: [ -> ]I didn't see the hyperlink. The only "Gang" I've heard of is the one I described. I have no idea what this is, sorry. The only interaction I've had with anyone on DD is on the public DD fora. I don't know of any "secret" threads where some "Gang" hung out. Was that ever revealed?

Doogle the Disingenuous. Not only was he not a member, he didn't even know it existed. Hears nothing, sees nothing, knows nothing. No hyperlinks in the post he is responding to, no threads on the board he is posting at. Seems legit.?


The distance learning community frowns upon your shenanigans.

(08-29-2015, 02:34 PM)twodocdoug Wrote: [ -> ]Heck, show the presence of this "gang" itself. That would be interesting. But I haven't seen it.

Somehow you managed to find the correct category on this board for posts about you ("Nominees, second-stringers, others") at the very bottom of the page, but couldn't locate the entire section devoted to "The Gang"? A thread deemed of sufficient importance to be located in the Announcements section, second from the top of the page?

Quote:BUSTED! Inside "The Gang"? Stalker Conspiracy
A self-described "gang" of internet stalkers and reprobates gets together for secret scheming. Surprise! Somebody turned the light on the cockroaches! Redacted to protect the innocent. Uncensored to expose the guilty.

Seriously, is English not your native language? Are you suffering from some sort of attention deficit disorder or short term memory loss? Are you visually impaired? You have been posting more or less continuously on this forum under various identities since its establishment, but you expect us to believe you didn't see the thread about "The Gang" and its activities?

You are right about one thing. The question whether you were asked to join "The Gang" is a good one. Gustavo Sainz claimed that everyone he asked to join agreed to join. Did Gustavo Sainz not consider you worthy of joining, even though you would seem to have credentials superior to most of those who did join? Your buddy Klempner joined but neglected to mention it to you? He told everyone about you forgetting your shoes in the gas station toilet but didn't tell you about his participation in the exclusive He-Man Woman Haters Diploma Mill Stalker Club?

(08-29-2015, 06:46 PM)Don Dresden Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-29-2015, 02:34 PM)twodocdoug Wrote: [ -> ]Heck, show the presence of this "gang" itself. That would be interesting. But I haven't seen it.

Somehow you managed to find the correct category on this board for posts about you ("Nominees, second-stringers, others") at the very bottom of the page, but couldn't locate the entire section devoted to "The Gang"? A thread deemed of sufficient importance to be located in the Announcements section, second from the top of the page?

Quote:BUSTED! Inside "The Gang" Stalker Conspiracy
A self-described "gang" of internet stalkers and reprobates gets together for secret scheming. Surprise! Somebody turned the light on the cockroaches! Redacted to protect the innocent. Uncensored to expose the guilty.

Seriously, is English not your native language? Are you suffering from some sort of attention deficit disorder or short term memory loss? Are you visually impaired? You have been posting more or less continuously on this forum under various identities since its establishment, but you expect us to believe you didn't see the thread about "The Gang" and its activities?

You are right about one thing. The question whether you were asked to join "The Gang" is a good one. Gustavo Sainz claimed that everyone he asked to join agreed to join. Did Gustavo Sainz not consider you worthy of joining, even though you would seem to have credentials superior to most of those who did join? Your buddy Klempner joined but neglected to mention it to you? He told everyone about you forgetting your shoes in the gas station toilet but didn't tell you about his participation in the exclusive He-Man Woman Haters Diploma Mill Stalker Club?

Hey, take it easy on Doogle the Dwarf. From his responses it's obvious the poor fellow is mentally retarded. It's not nice to make fun of retards.

(08-30-2015, 07:44 AM)Howie Felterbush Wrote: [ -> ]Hey, take it easy on Doogle the Dwarf. From his responses it's obvious the poor fellow is mentally retarded. It's not nice to make fun of retards.

Doogle just said he would "respond," he didn't say he would respond truthfully, intelligently or credibly. Are you really surprised that the guy with two doctorates doesn't seem to know or understand anything about the stalkers and degenerates he hangs out with?

(08-31-2015, 08:20 AM)nodickdoug Wrote: [ -> ]Again, I'll respond to queries, but that's it. You now have my response to the rest of it. No need to repeat it.

Why would anyone give a damn about anything you might say?

is this THE Doogle who claimed to have left forever ages ago? I'm a bit confused...