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Censored Posts from DI re Gay Al

When news of Alan Contreras's sexual perversion broke, a DI poster using the name "Yerout Fatgayal" began wreaking havoc at Gay Al's previously safe haven in porn peddler's paradise.   The posts were immediately censored by the boy rapist panderers, but not before a sharp-eyed reader saved them, as well as one by "Neal Downs."

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Originally posted by Alan Contreras
Cmdr Nosborne, I have actually walked the decks of the USS Missouri. I'll let that fact confuse the chatlist people for a while, though you'll probably figure it out, given your background.

And if you like, I'll send you my poem on the defense of Taffy 3. It makes a change from degree validations.

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I'm confused. Did you mean "walked the decks" or "sucked the dicks"? Please send us all your lovely poetry. Also feel free to post pictures of your dirty undergarments, if you ever make a change there too. Do you like to hum "In the Navy" when you are doing a sailor?

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04-09-2005 08:18 PM

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In general, Russ's argument is that employers get to decide whether a degree meets their needs. This is another way of saying that the degree itself may not be necessary (why did Spielberg bother?).

It is also another way of saying that a degree is, ultimately, just a piece of paper. That is the standard view taken by people who support diploma mills. I would be interested to hear from Russ the names of some degree suppliers whose product he would consider unfit for use in his business.

The state's position is that a degree should have an irreducible minimum core of academic work that is demonstrably at the college level appropriate for the award. That is, a doctoral degree must include original research or something equivalent.

The state's position is that a private employer should never accept an unaccredited degree as a valid credential unless the employer actually investigates the nature of the supplier and its degrees, or relies on ODA to do so.

The state's position is that all unaccredited degrees should be treated by private employers as being of doubtful quality unless the supplier can demonstrate to the employer that the degrees represent genuine academic work of sufficient quantity and quality.

Doubt and the expectation of evidence are attributes of thinking people who care about the difference between truth and falsehood.

Sorry about the oregonus, Uncle J, I borrowed it from the Oregon subspecies of Spotted Towhee. And you can see one more Spielberg movie: Empire of the Sun.

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I'm one of those thinking people you mentioned who cares ever so much about the difference between truth and falsehood. Do you think the ODA was negligent in not investigating you more carefully before they hired you? If they really cared about truth in Oregon don't you think they should have found out that you are a sexual deviant?

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04-09-2005 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by Alan Contreras
Sorry to have been away from the list during this discussion. Here are a few factlets.

The cost of a validation review for Oregon degree use is currently $250. This fee is required by the legislature, but does not constitute a major part of our budget.

Size and wealth are not factors for Oregon approval, although they can be for accreditation. Very small schools in Oregon have had no trouble becoming approved if they have a qualified faculty, an appropriate curriculum, acceptable policies on the award of credit and appropriate admission standards. There are some other factors, but these are the major ones.

I suggest that any discussion of what kind of unaccredited entity is a degree mill begin with one sharp demarcation: any entity that does not have the legal authority to issue degrees from the jurisdiction where it is physically located is automatically a degree mill because the degrees it issues are inherently fraudulent. The Oregon Department of Justice takes this position and so do we.

The reason is simple: in the United States, the authority to issue degrees is based solely in state authority except when superseded by Congress. There is no such thing in the U.S. today as inherent authority in a private party to issue college degrees. We know of no modern legal precedent to the contrary, and plenty in support of this concept. You may disagree with it, but foaming about it wastes everyone's time, it is the law and the norm in the U.S. Even "religious exempt" schools are not exempt because they want to be, they are exempt because of a specific provision of a state law. Half of the states do not even allow religious exemptions.

People sometimes forget that no accreditor, federally recognized or invented, has the legal authority to authorize a college to operate or to issue degrees. States, and only states, have this authority, except when Congress carves out a special case (i.e. the military academies).

When we discuss the differences among "gray area" unaccredited colleges, we are really discussing only those that have state approval to issue degrees, some of which are legitimate postsecondary providers and some of which are scams and substandard degree suppliers.

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Thanks for those "factlets." Perhaps you could make some clarifications.

Size is not a factor in Oregon approval? Is it a factor in what you stick in your bodily orifices?

Did you mean "superseded by Congress" or "super seeded by a Congressman"??

Did you mean "gray area" or "gay area"???

Thanks for keeping us all informed about scams and substandard performers. Perhaps a sexual deviant like you has special insight into those areas.

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04-09-2005 08:12 PM

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Originally posted by Alan Contreras
This entity claims to operate on Jersey. I thought that was considered UK home territory. Can someone enlighten me?

I should mention that I don't find Cambridge International listed anywhere ese, either. I sent an inquiry about it to the UK.

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I can enlighten you. Jersey is across the river from New York. They don't like sexual deviants there, so you better stay in Salem.

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04-09-2005 07:55 PM

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Originally posted by Alan Contreras
I have no additional information, just a one-sentence announcement. Because of my work I hear from a lot of agencies around the U.S. and the world. I thought this particular item would interest the group.
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It's nice to see you are so thoughtful about which items are of interest to the group. Here's an item I think would interest the group as well. Do you think your decisions are based on the law and the facts, or are you in any way influenced by the fact that you are a sexual deviant?

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04-09-2005 07:44 PM

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Originally posted by uncle janko
Good for you! Good luck!
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Now that the sexual deviance and perversion of Alan Contreras have become public knowledge, are you at all worried about who might be exposed next?

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04-09-2005 08:29 PM

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Get Behind Alan Contreras

It's time we applauded ODA chief Alan Contreras for making his queerness public. Since it appears that most of you who post here also are queer, I'm probably preaching to the choir, but I'm sure you all agree it was a bold and brave step to stand up against the onslaught of ridicule and debasement that is sure to follow.

Now these fundamentalist Christian schools like Bob Jones really do hate us queers, don't they? How dare those filthy rotten Jesus freaks insinuate that dear sweet Alan was acting improperly by trying to run Bob Jones out of business in Oregon. Any queer would have done the same thing. It's too bad he couldn't run every stinking Jesus loving one of them out of the entire state. Then we will have a completely queer state of our own. Thanks to all you queers here at Degreeinfo for your support. Let's all get behind Alan in every way possible. Be sure to give him your input.

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