05-09-2010, 06:13 PM
It was 2001 that an illustrious poster using the handle "Factwatcher" began a challenge to Klempner and his klones so effective that it still resonates in the aging self-promoter's failing memory nine years later:
It was "Factwatcher" and similar posters that drove the klones off public AED and forced them to create their perverted degreeinfo dungeon--so they could avoid challenges to their falsehoods, narrow-minded dogma and self-bestowed "expertise." Little did they know that they had jumped out of the fire and into the gay boy pornography frying pan.
Let's take a little trip down memory lane, shall we?
John Bear Wrote:03-21-2010http://forums.degreeinfo.com/329071-post29.html
...Wonder what name the truly evil "Factwatcher" is using now.
It was "Factwatcher" and similar posters that drove the klones off public AED and forced them to create their perverted degreeinfo dungeon--so they could avoid challenges to their falsehoods, narrow-minded dogma and self-bestowed "expertise." Little did they know that they had jumped out of the fire and into the gay boy pornography frying pan.
Let's take a little trip down memory lane, shall we?
Quote:John Bear - Untrue Statements
Sun, 07 Jan 2001 21:40:19 GMT
Hello John,
Since you have decided not to answer my question as part of a thread, perhaps you would like to answer this as a separate issue?
I have had an interesting time researching you today. All is not as you would like people to believe, is it?
Having had cause to question your competence and honesty regarding comments you stated as “fact”, which have subsequently turned out to be demonstrably untrue, I have come across this little gem which I have reproduced here from ‘Accredited College Degrees by Correspondence’ (Library of Congress Catalog card Number 93-4226, ISBN 1-884552-151-X )
Greenwich University
‘Beware this school. We believe it to be more insidious than a degree mill. They keep themselves borderline legal, but are known to be grossly deceptive. The owner of the school, Dr John Bear (not an M.D.) publishes a guide to non-traditional colleges that fraudulently list his newly started school as one of the top three percent of all such colleges in the country. Meanwhile, last year’s version of his own guide did not even acknowledge the existence of his fake ‘top school.’
Our research has discovered that Greenwich is really a newly-formed mom-and-pop operation running in Hawaii. The school is not approved or accredited by any organization, including the Department of Education in Hawaii, and is essentially operating with only a $15 Hawaiian business license.
By listing his own school as one of the best in his guide, Dr Bear confirms suspicions that his phoney guide to non-traditional schools is really a cleverly disguised brochure to sell admissions to his newly-created school. Along with deceiving readers into thinking that his guide is legitimate, credible list of carefully researched schools, Bear’s guide also viciously discredits a number of fine schools which compete with his Greenwich school.
By adopting these tactics, the management of Greenwich proves itself to be unethical and disreputable. Save your money and look for a more legitimate school.’
I have reproduced this WITHOUT seeking the permission of the author (although I doubt he will mind). Which brings me to a point. I have noticed on this forum that you and your ‘associates’ frequently cut and paste information from copyrighted websites. Have you sought permission to do so or are you guilty of copyright infringement?
Dr Bear, is the report about your involvement with Greenwich University true, either as yourself or as an alias?
Dr Bear, if it is not true, have you sued for defamation of character or libel?
Dr Bear, if you have not sued the author of this published work, why not?
Quote:Dr John Bear! You are a LIAR
Jan 9 2001, 12:00 pm
Son,
I suggest you take a moment to review some of your latest postings because honestly, you are coming across as a raving lunatic!
Why are you so concerned about who I am and not what I have to say!!!!!
Are you cruising for a date or something. Sorry friend, I am as staright as they come!
Meanwhile, far from fearing Dr John Bear, I am publicly challenging him to answer simple questions concerning his UNTRUTHFUL COMMENTS to this message board.
As a message board user are you not concerned that this man has been caught out, not in one LIE but apparently SEVERAL LIES.
Here are my questions.
Dr John Bear, how do you explain that on this message board you have peddled demonstrably UNTRUE statements as FACTS to your CERTAIN KNOWLEDGE?
Dr John Bear, what was your involvement with Greenwich University and the Institute for Advanced Studies?
Dr John Bear, please explain the chronology of your involvement with Greenwich University and the Institute for Advanced Studies relevant to their inclusion in your Bear’s Guide?
Dr John Bear, assuming that the allegations are true, did you post a prominent warning to your readers that the information you were giving may not have been unbiased because you were actually involved in the management of these institutions?
Dr John Bear, did you declare a conflict of interests ANYWHERE in ANY of your Bear’s Guide?
Dr John Bear, why have you declined to respond publicly to these questions about your honesty and truthfulness in a sphere in which you are considered an expert?
Dr John Bear, is your ISP down, as has been reported by some of your supporters in this message board? If so, can you please let me know which ISP you use, so that I can verify this statement?
Dr John Bear, assuming your ISP is down, how have you been sending and receiving e-mails?
Dr John Bear, is there NO way that you can gain access to the internet (a friend, colleague, family member or Cyber Café in your area) so that you can respond in this forum?
Dr John Bear, why is it that every time I post to this message board, I am attacked by users who don’t seem to care whether or not you are telling the truth?
Dr John Bear, have you (or anyone working for you) been giving your own books on amazon.com favourable reviews?
Quote:John Bear's $100,000 challenge to the anonymous poster
John Bear
Jan 12 2001, 12:01 am
The anonymous poster writes:
I am posting warnings to people that Dr John Bear has been accused publicy of using his guide to promote degree mills he either owns, runs or has interests in.
This CANNOT be coincidental.
He has yet to answer to these accusations.
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John Bear replies:
I have no involvement of any kind whatsoever in any degree-granting institution on the planet. None. How could I possibly be clearer.
Furhter, I have offered to donate $100,000 to the charity of the poster's choice if he can show that I own, run, or have interest in, if the poster will pledge a like amount if he or she fails to demonstrate this.
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factwatcher
Jan 12 2001, 1:30 pm
Dr John Bear,
How many times do I have to make it clear to you that I have NO INTEREST in whether or not you have or are a degree mill operator. Intill one week ago I had no idea who you were or even what a degree- mill was!
My beef with you is that you have blatently LID to this forum and for some reason NOBODY SEEMS TO CARE!
By your twisted logic there are only two types of people. Those who treat every word you say or print is THE GOSPEL TRUTH while anyone who has reason to contradict you is automatically a degree mill owner.
This is as illogical as saying that anyone who remains alert for Civil Liberties violations by the police is automatically a criminal.
IT JUST IS NOT SO!
When I was confronted by a storm of vicious attacks by your supporters ebcause I corrected what I believed to be a mistake on your part, I looked into you further and found compelling evidence that you are a dishonest man, peddling your lies as facts upon which people are making life decisions.
I could not, in good conscience, allow you to continue to use this forum as a shameless promotion venue for your discredited books.
My reaction would have been the same if you had been dispensing advice on anything else: cars, immigration, food supplements, dog-breeding or whatever.
You lied to this forum and NOBODY CARES!
SOMEBODY HAS TO CARE!!!!!
Quote:DR BEAR SCAMMER EXTRORDANAIRE (the real story)
johnbear_scam
Jan 14 2001, 6:54 pm
This is the story of Dr Bear
Promotes degrees here, promotes degrees there.
“I will write a book” he said, hands in the air
“To publicize my scams to those not beware”.
“Good idea pop” says Mariah,
her hands raised even higher
“well write bad stories about other institutes
and you can spend the cash on prostitutes”
“No Mariah”, he said rubbing his hands together
“I have an idea I think will last forever”.
I can open degree mill after degree mill after degree mill
and sell to idiots who believe my pig’s swill
“When official complaints come rolling in
I´ll deny my involvement and jack it in.
That will keep me from going to jail
My former associates can stay to get nailed”.
Years went on an Dr Bear was sitting pretty
Creating false accusations and being rather shitty
But then one night a Factwatcher came his way,
“You’ve lied Dr Bear and I’ll prove it some day”.
“Oh go away you horrible troll”,
Snaps a John Bear crony like a bull in a mall,
“Dr Bear is legit, so take a hike you interfering git”
“No”, says Factwatcher “until I have the truth I will never quit”.
“But you are destroying our scam business” they cried
“Please leave the forum our money has dried”
“No, never. I will expose Dr Bear as a fraud”
and disgruntled students cheered and applaud.
“I challenge Dr Bear” said Factwatcher
“You’ve lied, you’re a fraud and now I´ve gotcha”
“Answer the questions or I´ll remain
To uncover your scams and bring you great shame”.
“No, Factwatcher, I cannot,
my reputation is already tattered and shot”
“I will do what I always do, what is best for me,
I´ll make my excuses and then I´ll flee”
That was the story of Dr Bear
He Promoted degrees here, he promoted degrees there.
To publicize his scams to those not beware.
