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What Are Some of the Problems with Accreditation?
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05-13-2007, 01:54 PM
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What Are Some of the Problems with Accreditation?
What Are Some of the Problems with Accreditation?
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05-23-2007, 06:52 PM
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RE: What Are Some of the Problems with Accreditation?
It's a miracle if you can actually get CHEA to answer a question. They act as if they have more important things to do than respond to ordinary citizens. Maybe they are too busy cashing those checks they get from the accreditors. You know, those people they are supposed to regulate and monitor.
James A.S., B.S., M.B.A. |
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05-24-2007, 12:35 AM
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RE: What Are Some of the Problems with Accreditation?
Randall Flagg Wrote:It's a miracle if you can actually get CHEA to answer a question. They act as if they have more important things to do than respond to ordinary citizens. Maybe they are too busy cashing those checks they get from the accreditors. You know, those people they are supposed to regulate and monitor. Corruption within CHEA, no, tell me its not so. Well that will change, now that junior G-man George Gollin is on the CHEA payroll. |
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05-24-2007, 03:40 AM
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RE: What Are Some of the Problems with Accreditation?
Two problems with accreditation I see are it's arbitrary and it's political.
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05-24-2007, 04:17 AM
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RE: What Are Some of the Problems with Accreditation?
Richard Kimble Wrote:Two problems with accreditation I see are it's arbitrary and it's political. A third to add to that list is that it can be bought. |
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05-25-2007, 03:43 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-25-2007 05:25 AM by Randall Flagg.)
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RE: What Are Some of the Problems with Accreditation?
A fourth:
Yale is accredited and is a fine school. Union Institute and UOP are accredited and are toilets. By being able to say all are accredited, some people get fooled into believing that bad and good are almost the same, CRAP. The good schools don't require accreditation to be known as good and the bad schools aren't made better by being called, accredited. It's like pouring sugar on a big pile of fresh cow dung and saying it's just the same as cake, NO IT'S NOT. A good school includes education and a fine reputation, schools like Union just take your money, hand you a diploma, and you get the education part somewhere else, or not at all. Then you get to go round lying about making 350k (Douglas) while you work as the prison guard (Douglas) or drive a truck (Levicoff), maybe even get to go bankrupt (Gus) or, sell porn to youth (Chip White). My, my, but these wonderful schools do produce some fine, successful, interesting, people. Interesting as in losers and sick. James A.S., B.S., M.B.A. |
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01-10-2008, 11:36 AM
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RE: What Are Some of the Problems with Accreditation?
Randall Flagg Wrote:A fourth: I would add Northcentral to the accredited toilet category. What are some accredited non-traditional (DL or otherwise) schools of the non-toilet variety? I'd say American Military University fits the bill. Any others? |
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01-10-2008, 06:27 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-10-2008 06:31 PM by Randall Flagg.)
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RE: What Are Some of the Problems with Accreditation?
There are a good many accredited schools that will do what they advertise. The problem with the lesser schools touted by DI/DD is that they promise the moon and deliver the basement. Now for many people just about any legal school will do and that is just fine, but, if you need more, and some do, then such as Union will not suffice. I would hate to show up at Yale with two TESC or two Excelsior degrees and apply for a position as a professor. I'm afraid the laughter would be very B-A-D. Now for sure, the boys at DI will tell us that if it's RA that's all that matters, but, you know, that just isn't so. Many times it does matter and they, more than most truly know it, and yet they continue to lie to people and suck them into those 90-120 day degrees with promises of glory and high wages, and guess what? the factory workers and the box stackers find out that you really can't be the CEO of General Motors with little business experience and two quicky degrees from the bottom end RA schools. You also can't teach at Harvard with nothing but these degrees.
It seems that some schools are a little more RA than others. Now don't get me wrong. If a 110 day degree from TESC will do what you want, great, do it, but don't get one figuring that you have just done the same thing as some kid spending 5 years at Princeton or Stanford. ALL accredited schools are good for some things, just not ALL things. You have to know what you want, need, and the truth about these DL schools, and DI / DD very often will lie to you for their own reasons and are not looking to your best benefit but to theirs. Use the schools that you prefer, just don't tell me that ice cream and mud are the same thing just because you have dirty lips. For me, California Coast is a good school usable in many situations, but, it is not Harvard, and no, you won't be teaching physics at Yale with one of these degrees, but you might just be the next manager at K-Mart, if you have some business experience and work hard. James A.S., B.S., M.B.A. |
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01-11-2008, 05:27 AM
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RE: What Are Some of the Problems with Accreditation?
James accurately describes the major problems with accreditation. It is the perception by an uninformed consumer (adult student) that regional accreditation alone is a guarantee of a school's quality. This is due in large part to people like our friends Bear, Bomber, Gus, Janko, etc., each of whom has done their best to perpetuate and spread this distortion.
The public will spend more time researching their next electronics purchase than researching the DL program they will enroll in. They look at accreditation (RA- the gold standard), cursorary glance at a specific program and the out-of-pocket cost and ... decide to enroll. Hey, they say, it's accredited, even though they haven't done an in-depth assessment if it is a program that will achieve short and long-term career goals. Little Arminius Yeah Gus, I'm back and on your game like a fly on sh** http://www.bible-researcher.com/arminianism.html |
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01-11-2008, 07:51 AM
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RE: What Are Some of the Problems with Accreditation?
Quote:if it is a program that will achieve short and long-term career goals. Quote:What you mean is addressed unofficially with market research, employment fairs, employment research...EG annual reviews of UK universities (TIMES, THE GUARDIAN ) publish even ranking about employment, EG Oxford University's philosophy had a 10/10 employment ratio, etc...how reliable their findings are is one's guess. right now even top universities' employment rates are mostly massaged ads for what might or might not happen. A.A Mole University B.A London Institute of Applied Research B.Sc Millard Fillmore M.A International Institute for Advanced Studies Ph.D London Institute of Applied Research Ph.D Millard Fillmore |
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