How to find State licensed doctorates
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What would be the best approach if I want to find out which state licensed universities offers on-line doctorates in the fields of administration or business. I.e. DBA, Doctor of Management, Doctor of Leadership (if it exists), Doctor of Public Administration etc.

How many State Licensed universities are there approximately in the US?

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JohnDoe Wrote:What would be the best approach if I want to find out which state licensed universities offers on-line doctorates in the fields of administration or business. I.e. DBA, Doctor of Management, Doctor of Leadership (if it exists), Doctor of Public Administration etc.

How many State Licensed universities are there approximately in the US?

Perhaps it is time for an association of unaccredited state approved degree granting schools to represent their interests without making any claim of accreditation. I don't have an answer to your question.
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Dennis Ruhl Wrote:
JohnDoe Wrote:What would be the best approach if I want to find out which state licensed universities offers on-line doctorates in the fields of administration or business. I.e. DBA, Doctor of Management, Doctor of Leadership (if it exists), Doctor of Public Administration etc.

How many State Licensed universities are there approximately in the US?

Perhaps it is time for an association of unaccredited state approved degree granting schools to represent their interests without making any claim of accreditation.  I don't have an answer to your question.

But other than the accumulation of school contact data, what purpose would it serve, other than the schools themselves? Also, it is widely known that state licensure standards vary widely. If state licensure is the standard for membership, pure diploma mills would find a home. I would hope, subsequently, legitimate member schools would leave, destroying the effort.

Back when California Approval mattered, the approved schools formed a trade association. But it died with California's standards.
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Duggle Wrote:But other than the accumulation of school contact data, what purpose would it serve, other than the schools themselves? Also, it is widely known that state licensure standards vary widely. If state licensure is the standard for membership, pure diploma mills would find a home. I would hope, subsequently, legitimate member schools would leave, destroying the effort.

Back when California Approval mattered, the approved schools formed a trade association. But it died with California's standards.

Do I hear Gus calling?

School contact data - sure. Representing the schools to government and suing bonehead losers that call anything and everything a degreemill without any evidence whatsoever - sure.
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Fort Bragg Wrote:
Duggle Wrote:But other than the accumulation of school contact data, what purpose would it serve, other than the schools themselves?  Also, it is widely known that state licensure standards vary widely. If state licensure is the standard for membership, pure diploma mills would find a home.  I would hope, subsequently, legitimate member schools would leave, destroying the effort.

Back when California Approval mattered, the approved schools formed a trade association.  But it died with California's standards.

Do I hear Gus calling?

School contact data - sure.  Representing the schools to government and suing bonehead losers that call anything and everything a degreemill without any evidence whatsoever - sure.


Funny how that never seems to happen.
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Duggle Wrote:Funny how that never seems to happen.

An association could spread the cost around. Only someone exceedingly ignorant of legal matters would assume that the lack of a lawsuit means no case exists. Spend a million dollars suing an indigent like Gus and see how much you recover in damages.
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JohnDoe Wrote:How many State Licensed universities are there approximately in the US?

How about just narrowing the search parameters to the quoted question above?
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#8
To answer my own question, this would probably be a starting point:

http://www.stateuniversity.com/

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#9
JohnDoe Wrote:To answer my own question, this would probably be a starting point:

http://www.stateuniversity.com/

If however you're looking for a "State licensed/approved" (unaccredited) school you will need another website.

As for the State approved/licensed issue, I too am looking for an affordable "State approved/licensed" school that need not be accredited but offer some solid and AFFORDABLE value.

I've been looking for quite some time now and have actually applied to and was accepted (just today) by Breyer State University.  

I have 3-degrees, (A.S., B.S., & M.S.) all accredited and was looking for a PhD or PsyD that I could afford.  BSU may just fit the bill for me, and admittedly may or may not be a wise move.  I'm going to think it over for a few/several days and then decide.
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Have you looked into the possibility of a South African doctoral program? The primary South African DL university is UNISA (University of South Africa), from which I earned a BA(Hons) degree a number of years ago. They are a very large university with international recognition but are also (in)famous for their multi-layered bureaucracy. Even with the difficulties in receiving responses from the school, UNISA is an excellent value - you are getting a very solid, mid-level quality RA-equivalent for the cost of a community college!

UNISA homepage

While UNISA is 100% DL (though they have study centres in various locations in SA and Namibia), B&M SA universities also have provisions for "part-time" doctoral studies in various disciplines. This "part-time" study is essentially distance learning. At the doctoral level in SA (including UNISA) there is no formal coursework but rather a thesis(dissertation) proposal, the thesis(dissertation) itself and the oral defense.  

Four additional points:

1) Due to a reorganization and consolidation of the SA university system, many schools focused their specializations in several areas. Hence, perhaps only a handful will offer the program you want.

2) Check how frequently you will have to go to SA. With UNISA you can probably get away with a single visit to defend you thesis*(dissertation) but that may not be the case with all programs.

3) Jack Tracey of DegreeDiscussion was accepted into and enrolled in a PhD program at University of the Free State. He is usually generous with his time and in providing info if you ask.

4) You can find a lot of useful info on UNISA at degreeinfo. Look for posts by Brad Sweet as he actually has a UNISA PhD; ignore anything written by Chip (the owner) as he doesn't know what he's talking about.

* UNISA's Graduate School of Business Leadership offers a Doctor of Business Leadership (DBL) that while 100% DL, also require that you attend several "colloquia" while a dcotoral student. That translates into 4 visits to SA plus yout oral defense.
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