Maybe He Isn't a TOTAL Arsehole

[Ben Johnson]

From Little Fauss at an un-named place:

http://www.degreediscussion.com/viewtopi...56&start=0

[ham]

No, you adduced my experience (of which you know nothing) to prove your point.

sooo...
keyboard sociopaths like uncle Janko spend ages posting terabytes about them over the internet, then claim one doesn't know a thing by quoting what they just typed.
En passant uncle Janko posted more on a single forum in one year than I have on several forums since 2001, but hey...

3. Job security for instructional staff so they can resist pressures to dumb down the curriculum in order to attract more students/consumers of services.

actually mr. professor ignores it might just be the other way round.
I witnessed personally huge, reputable state universities running "degree mill" inside schemes to the benefit of "you know who" (third world aliens, "existentialists", lefty activists etc ) because faculty are "just intimidated" to go ahead and fail poor little Abdul from Pakistan ( or Muffy head of the lesbian crisis center or Jack who spray painted hammer&scythe on the walls ) because they would be accused of any wrongdoing, even if Abdul did not submit any essay and delivered garbled speeches, or whatever.
So after all, granting poor Abdul a sound B might be less hassle than sifting through a few appellate sessions...when inconspicuous Ham comes along, then academic integrity shall prevail 110%...their way or the highway.
And by today's post-WWII/postmodern standards granting those people dubious favours is called "acting affirmatively", "positive discrimination" etc and the zenith of tolerance and goodness...

I think online or virtual libraries can easily replace physical libraries, along with a few premium document retrieval services such as INIST in France.
I don't miss classrooms; I don't miss people or the Abdul of the day; I don't miss cervical pain after spending eight hours a day photocopying under the air conditioning fan... all in all, I can access the document online or buy it from specialized providers at the same cost, or just a little more, than it would copying it in some university library (rates have always been high ), plus room&board costs whose loss I won't miss.

[Albert Hidel]

Stockholm syndrome or too many jabs to the face?

First Little Fuass comes here and gets his ass kicked, then he goes back over there begging for punishment.  Then after Janko can't muster any intelligent response, Little Fuass surrenders, rolls over and apologizes Jimmy-style.  What is wrong with that bunch?  

I lowered the standards of the forum by hitting below the belt repeatedly. As an ex-boxer, I know that doesn't win a fight--it gets you disqualified. So I'm disqualifying myself from this thread permanently. This wasn't the way for a person who claims to be of faith to act. It wasn't the way for anyone to act.

I'm sorry.

[ham]

Upon further reflection, I'd like to offer an apology to Janko and others. Not necessarily for proposing an idea for debate--debate's good--but for the way I did it, particularly with Uncle.

There was no call for me to question his ability to reason or be coherent. There was no reason for me to call him any kind of ass, to use ad hominem or invective, to taunt or in general to act like a undisciplined 13 year old kid.

Every point he raised was in bounds: Do I really know my provincial limits? Do I have any experience in doctoral research? What background do I have with the humanities and extensive library research?

I lowered the standards of the forum by hitting below the belt repeatedly. As an ex-boxer, I know that doesn't win a fight--it gets you disqualified. So I'm disqualifying myself from this thread permanently. This wasn't the way for a person who claims to be of faith to act. It wasn't the way for anyone to act.

this sort of idiots look more uncanny the greater the length they go to "read" impressive and aloof.
They are the chorus of the unwashed laughing when the schoolyard bully pulls a prank on the nerdy kid and the nerd gets hurt.
Then the bully turns to them and asks the rhetoric question:
Why are you laughing, f-ckface? Your mother has sex with truck drivers for a dime and you'll be sorry if you don't shut your trap ...
Oh sorry Moe...I didn't mean it...whatever you say Moe...but please still be my friend Moe.

[D00bie]

Sounds like an arsehole to me.

[Ben Johnson]

Sounds like an arsehole to me.

WTF is the bugger apologizing for? Did Janko threaten to touch him with his stump? Quite the dog and pony show.

[Little Arminius]

I have seen this scenario played out a number of times before and yet am amazed again and again that the master manipulator continues to get away with it. What is "it"? It's the uncanny ability to get people who have nailed you down, cornered you, boxed you in or whatever cliche you wish to use, to apologize for their actions and admit that they were wrong.

How does he do it? I guess that it is the right combination of sympathy, arrogance, presumed credibility and moral authority, corny schtick and bluster on Janko's part. He is certainly helped by a healthy dose of naivete, stupidity and guilt by the other lemmings, err, posters. I seem to recall Janko leaving DI and later DD but returning after there was a chorus of "heartfelt apologies" from the rest of the losers. He's had blow-ups with Quinn, Bomber Douglas, crazy8chick (remember her from DI?), Learner, MCDirector ( he claimed that she put "cookies" into his hard drive ) and Jimmy Clifton among others. In each case the victim of Uncle Janko's attacks was the one who apologized and Janko who, after waiting a short period for effect, accepted amid a big chorus of greetings and thanks. (Why they would thank Uncle J is beyond me ... it must be a reflex)

[ham]

It's the uncanny ability to get people who have nailed you down, cornered you, boxed you in or whatever cliche you wish to use, to apologize for their actions and admit that they were wrong.

No, it's much simpler in my opinion...
Whenever one disagrees with the clique (or any clique soever ), he is first contradicted and if he raises successfully to the challenge, then he is sent bad vibes, warning messages, threatening innuendo (if so...then... ), character assassination. If he refuses to comply, he is banned...
Baah-haa!
It is the good old sandbox conspiracy situation everyone has experienced in kindergarten...
Moe and Rufus, the schoolyard bullies (or clique leaders ) want poor little Bobby to boo and kick their victims, or to use secret words and handshakes, or to say that so and so is good...
If Bobby does, cool... if he doesn't, he'll soon be another victim.
Many times I have been cornered and "threatened" over the internet, with every Moe and Rufus in e-town wanting me to "put up or shut up", or to "show my credibility"...
Every time I have stood up and every time I have been banned (not silenced or defeated, though ).
So I pity the poor, spineless sea cucumbers that have to bend over to simply keep posting on some crummy website, bowing down to the high morals of millists, gay teen pornographers, financial frauds, massage parlor addicts and other deviants and impostors.
I understand a man who must buy hogwash from his boss because he has five children to feed, a mortgage and a ton of overdue bills... but over the internet?
Not one ( N O T ONE ) of the self-righteous clowns who ever banned me online was worth more than ten cents...most in fact were known criminals, fools and frauds such as used cars salespeople...

[Ben Johnson]

I almost thought that Little Fauss had grown a pair but I guess I was wrong. For a moment I thought he might be a welcome addition here. If I do that again, slap me.

[D00bie]

http://www.degreediscussion.com/viewtopi...8&start=15

Looks like it is all over for Fauss and Janko.

FAUSS:  If you're still reading this board, I'd stay away from Janko if I were you otherwise he will out you and cyberstalk you the way he did North and others.  He might even accuse you of being the new Herbert Spencer and you were in cahoots with North all along.

All North did was tell Janko to stop being so damn nasty to people.  Sounds like great advice for a Lutheran "pastor" who wouldn't know God if he/she slapped him in the face.