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diploma mills are like Chinese Prada...it isn't going to go away only because it hurts someone's interests...and buyers get a Prada bag at 1/100 the price...only experts could tell the difference anyways
There is no doubt certain schools benefit from special treatment, much as individuals do.
It's like when the bunch of perverts, frauds, millists and their ilk at DD/DI keep discussing a degree mill and debating seemingly fine points of doctrine again and again under the cover of 'exposing' it...that's a fraudulent infomercial for the school being discussed. Remember ESRDS? They kept on discussing moot points in spite of the fact that admittedly they knew no French and had no clue about how France differs from Alabama. What is that, according to you? Oh, yes...Diderot and Grimm exchanging lists of pornographic books & book stores under the cover of criticizing them. Wasn't John Bear's first guide a directory of mills complete with addresses? To 'expose' them, of course...

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But Ham, you were the person/mole/implant that provided Robert De Sorbon with exactly the publicity it required and you were almost solely responsible for enduring the ESRDS is now listed as a French University on numerous French websites - which is where ESRDS are entitled to be.


You mean those 'listing' websites that indexed even Chip White's gay teen porn DVD n.71? Everybody goes on those listings according to meta words indexed by search engines, or flatly pays to be there.
I never posted on any French website, so I can't see how I could be responsible for what goes on them.
Publicity?
I only came to know about them when their aliases trolled every site on Earth to gain visibility; I am not interested in any quickie based on some catchy foreign procedure with an odd name.
I have the best education money can buy, remember?

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as anyone with 1/2 a brain can soon determine their legitimacy (except perhaps HAM, G-G & JB?


Am I to discuss brain sizes or smarts with someone nicknamed dr. Duck? Ham & dr. Duck? What's that, Hanna&Barbera with a crack pipe?
Much as I loved (and saved to HD) our deleted funny exchange, I am not in the position of resuming it here, so let's agree to disagree.

Bellona Wrote:
The defendants in USA vs. Dixie Ellen Randock et al. were convicted of an array of federal charges including mail and wire fraud, as well as violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.


That statement is false, as I'm sure you well know.  They may have been charged with a variety of trumped up charges, but the Randocks pled guilty to one count of conspiracy to commit wire and mail fraud.  Novack was the only one convicted under FCPA.  Why anyone other than the pervert child pornographer Pearson pled guilty to anything is still a mystery to me.

Are you still in grudge mode because Dixie got the three years community service the corrupt judge vindictively tacked onto her sentence overturned on appeal?

In any event, in citing convictions under the wire fraud statute you have completely and precisely proved RGent's point, that any such convictions are not taken under "diploma mill" statutes.

And take that pissy attitude somewhere else.  If you want to come over here and discuss issues, discuss issues, don't make with the "Do you really mean what you are writing" and "you are foolish to write untruths," etc.  You are foolish to think that anyone is going to put up with your passive aggressive bullshit.  If RGent wasn't kicking the shit out of you in this discussion I'm sure you would already be banned.

Do you know that when big brother could not frame an unwelcome individual, they resorted to sorcery? It was still legal practice in England during WWII. In other words, big brother will forget or remember as it sees fit. In France they are putting to use new speed traps that -according to many- violate or or many law provisions. Since they are thought to bring in an extra load of millions, insiders claim a new whitewashing law is cooking to make them perfectly legal.

dooglearse Wrote:
This is, sadly, a case of broken logic---a conclusion in search of an explanation, creating one where it does not exist naturally.


Air Marshall!

Where's your wingman? I guess he crashed and burned.

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Dennis Ruhl Wrote:
Where's your wingman?  I guess he crashed and burned.


And your record of service, sir?


I remember an officer's dinner at a very fine hotel and I was dressed in my finest British Cavalry blues. Someone came up and asked me where the washrooms were and I replied that I didn't know. It took a minute to hit me but he must have thought I was the frigging doorman. My record of service is insignificant.

I just wondered where your buddy was. You know like Quickdraw McGraw had? You guys were like Siamese twins.

dooglearse Wrote:
Dennis, all bitterness aside, I have no idea what you're talking about. What are you talking about?


There's never been any bitterness. It's just that you and your friend used to lead crusades against websites to which you objected as a tag team. Are you sure you can handle it alone?

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Dennis Ruhl Wrote:

dooglearse Wrote:
Dennis, all bitterness aside, I have no idea what you're talking about. What are you talking about?


There's never been any bitterness.  It's just that you and your friend used to lead crusades against websites to which you objected as a tag team.  Are you sure you can handle it alone?


I don't know of anyone else. I work alone. Who do you have in mind?


I'm wondering, too. Is Dennis alluding to fellow Union grad, Steve Levicoff? Or perhaps Gus Sainz, administrator of DD and a rapid opponent of all non-RA schools? Could it be John Bear, the one-time mentor and iconic figure of all things DL? The list could go on and on but the relationship gets increasingly weaker the further out we go.  ( e.g. Rich and Vinny123 because they both like discussing the pros and cons of DETC doctorates. Wink )

Little Arminius Wrote:
Or perhaps Gus Sainz, administrator of DD and a rapid opponent of all non-RA schools?


Bingo! I'm thinking close to 10 years back. They came in packs - well a pack of 2.

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