Note some fools at degreeinfo:
http://forums.degreeinfo.com/showthread....868&page=3
Barrington, now named the U of Atlanta, gets called a degreemill. It has been a DETC candidate for accreditation for some time. As it has not been rejected out of hand for accreditation there has to be considerable substance.
Why do the fools always pick on the best unaccredited schools?
Ben Johnson Wrote:Note some fools at degreeinfo:
http://forums.degreeinfo.com/showthread....868&page=3
Barrington, now named the U of Atlanta, gets called a degreemill. It has been a DETC candidate for accreditation for some time. As it has not been rejected out of hand for accreditation there has to be considerable substance.
Why do the fools always pick on the best unaccredited schools?
Those fools at DI and at DD confirm quite categorically that "A FOOL WITH A DEGREE IS STILL A FOOL!"
From what I’ve seen Barrington has always been a legitimate operation, just like CCU and KWU - both having been on the receiving end of exactly the same garbage from the very same fools.
They will pick on all unaccredited schools, except, they let Bear and Douglas have a pass for theirs, including Bear's degree mills.
I read the whole thread and saw how Vinipink had Douglas squealing like a stuck pig. I suppose everyone saw where Douglas and gang were saying how long ago the MIGS stuff was. Hell, Douglas only dropped out June 26, 2001. That is only six years ago. It seems ancient history, to the gang, is only 4-6 years ago, if it is their history. Well, I'll tell you how I see it. A shill for MIGS is still a liar and shill be it 1-5-10-20 years ago.
It seems the gang can't stand schools like Breyer State or Barrington.
BUT, they don't seem too troubled with former owners and employees of some unaccredited schools or even some degree mills, such as Bear and Douglas. I guess the gang thinks it's fine to sell the degrees, just not ok to have them.
Now back to MIGS.
"As Steve pointed out, my roll with MIGS is as a Ph.D. student and research assistant. The RA position is unpaid; I don't even have a written agreement. I've edited their manuals, written a little bit of material for the website, provided feedback to the staff, and talked to potential and current students about the process."
--Rich Douglas--AED--2000
You see he was up to the chin in MIGS, NOT, just some student who helped a bit around the edges.
Now here is a nice one:
"MIGS is not required to be licensed in the State of Florida (where MIGS operates its office."
--Rich Douglas--Degreeinfo--2001
You see when they like something it isn't even required to be legal. But as we know both Texas and Florida (both) decided that MIGS had to be licensed and both said -- NO. MIGS never operated legally in the United States, AND, Bear was a faculty member and Douglas was an employee / student.
Bear and Douglas were both involved with an illegally operating school ---MIGS.
And you thought Alan Contreras didn't like unaccredited schools.
"Oregon has historically allowed unaccredited schools to issue degrees restricted to religious uses. I don't see a big problem with that."
--Alan Contreras--The Chronicle of Higher Education
So, Alan doesn't see a problem with Oregon allowing unaccredited schools to issue degrees, Hmmmmm. But he does have a problem with other states doing that. Sounds a whole lot like hypocrisy to me.
And you thought Douglas doesn't defend unaccredited schools as being useful.
Question about Virginia International University--from DW Cox.
"How can you stand in front of 15 or more students every week and participate in the behavior (the risk of unaccredited) that you WARN so many visitors to this NG about? You are participating in the very behavior that might cost your students thousands of dollars for a worthless piece of paper."
Answer:
" Who says it's worthless? I don't, and never have. The courses and degrees EARNED at VIU may well have GOOD value to its students. And I'm paid (per course) to teach a few."
--Rich Douglas--Degreeinfo--5/12/2002
Now ain't that something? Rich sees good use for unaccredited degrees, and says they were earned degrees, and that they may well have good value. $$$$$$$$$$$$ it sure changes the mind.
Randall Flagg Wrote:And you thought Douglas doesn't defend unaccredited schools as being useful.
Question about Virginia International University--from DW Cox.
"How can you stand in front of 15 or more students every week and participate in the behavior (the risk of unaccredited) that you WARN so many visitors to this NG about? You are participating in the very behavior that might cost your students thousands of dollars for a worthless piece of paper."
Answer:
" Who says it's worthless? I don't, and never have. The courses and degrees EARNED at VIU may well have GOOD value to its students. And I'm paid (per course) to teach a few."
--Rich Douglas--Degreeinfo--5/12/2002
Now ain't that something? Rich sees good use for unaccredited degrees, and says they were earned degrees, and that they may well have good value. $$$$$$$$$$$$ it sure changes the mind.
Well if former shilling doesn't count, that must be why John B. Bear was not picked up and arrested during the DIPSCAM raids where he led the FEDs around by the nose to close down his competitors. Wait, he still has mills going at the same time, never mind.
So it was just that FBI Special Agent, Otho Allen Ezell, Jr., was too ignorant to realize his CI (confidential informant) was participating in the illegal activity that Otho Allen Ezell, Jr. was supposed to be closing down during the DIPSCAM operation. Now I see.
Now we know why Otho is just a glorified bank guard in a suit at Wachovia Bank
http://www.Wachovia.com I'll bet they make him keep his bullet in his pocket too.
You don't ask a Sunday school teacher to teach you how to crack a safe, you ask an expert safe cracker. The FBI did the same thing. It asked Frank Abagnale to teach them all the tricks of the trade in counterfeiting money and documents and they went to Bear to learn the secrets of phoney and milled college degrees.
Bear knew about the lack of standards in Louisiana and Hawaii becuase of his two schools, Fairfax and Greenwich. He knew about pure degree mills due to his own, L.I.A.R. & Millard Fillmore. Bear knew all the tricks in setting up these little schools and where to put them to best avoid rules and regulations. He knew how to lure in customers by advertising and what to say to promote them as real and good. The FBI needed an insider in the private DL school business, and they got one of the best to show them the ropes. You don't hang your informant with one of his ropes. You hang those he knows about and is willing to rat out.
Ben Johnson Wrote:Barrington, now named the U of Atlanta, gets called a degreemill. It has been a DETC candidate for accreditation for some time. As it has not been rejected out of hand for accreditation there has to be considerable substance.
Maybe DETC was laughing so hard they couldn't bring themselves to read the application.
If Belford University applied, I bet DETC wouldn't even reply to them, mostly since Belford is afraid to give a mailing address. So Belford wouldn't be rejected out of hand, it would be ignored. And that makes it a fine school, doesn't it?
Your think that something that hasn't been "rejected out of hand" is as good as Oxford, don't you?